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Dominic C Covid evidence 2

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Newtonianmechanics · 20/11/2023 15:44

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RafaistheKingofClay · 07/12/2023 08:39

I am doing other things as well.

I am enjoying the technique of giving Johnson rope to hang himself by letting him lie and then presenting him with the evidence he did know.

IClaudine · 07/12/2023 08:44

bombastix · 06/12/2023 22:26

No, the damage that Johnson did will take a decade to undo.

The only good thing is that he is finished in politics. No one is going to make him a Lord and bring him back. He is not even a useful idiot, which is something.

I wouldn't be so sure about him being finished. Johnson is still really popular with swathes of the gammon public, especially the ones who are swarming to the Reform party.

If there was any chance of him saving the Tories from electoral oblivion, I bet they would find a way to bring him back. But I don't think even Johnson can save them now.

RafaistheKingofClay · 07/12/2023 08:46

‘I think I did have access to the right forms of advice’

So you just ignored it then?

DuncinToffee · 07/12/2023 08:53

That was the big question during partygate as well, he had access to all the advice but didn't consult any of it.

DuncinToffee · 07/12/2023 09:07

Bereaved Families for Justice

Today we saw an exhibition of Johnson’s characteristics that failed us so badly during the pandemic.

He was evasive and non committal, claimed to be “unable to remember” what happened to his WhatsApp messages and and wouldn’t even accept his mistakes had led to excess deaths.

This was not the conduct of a man who wanted lessons to be learnt, and his apology rang utterly hollow.

It’s a painful reminder of his refusal to take Covid seriously in early 2020 and start preparing testing and other public health measures.

His indecisiveness when he refused to lockdown, causing the NHS to become overwhelmed.

And his failure to learn from his mistakes in the second wave, leading to an even larger death toll than in the first.

Ultimately, however much Johnson blusters, the proof was in the UK’s awful death toll, the second worst in Western Europe.

Everyone in the country has, in some way, been let down by Johnson's handling of Covid-19.

He was the worst possible PM at the worst possible time.

Tomorrow, after 3 years of campaigning to hold Johnson to account, the lawyers representing bereaved families will finally question him on our behalf.

We will get to the truth about what happened, so that lessons can be learned and lives can be saved in the future.

The memory of our loved one’s demands it.

MidnightOnceMore · 07/12/2023 09:21

Johnson's approval ratings are very low since COVID. There is a small percentage who remain loyal, but all the analysis is he would put off more voters than he would attract.

RafaistheKingofClay · 07/12/2023 09:36

‘With hindsight border controls didn’t work in countries that tried them’

Well yes, because of countries that didn’t control their borders. If we’d got everywhere to control their borders we could have eradicated it in weeks. We did very nearly eradicated it in the U.K. until EOTHO.

IClaudine · 07/12/2023 09:37

MidnightOnceMore · 07/12/2023 09:21

Johnson's approval ratings are very low since COVID. There is a small percentage who remain loyal, but all the analysis is he would put off more voters than he would attract.

That is good to know!

PerkingFaintly · 07/12/2023 09:53

Once again Brew and Cake to those of you brave enough to watch and report.

minou123 · 07/12/2023 10:00

Oh its just come up on the Covid Inquiry website, Sunak is giving his testimony all day Monday 11th.

Then nothing for Tuesday (but I suspect they have kept that open incase Sunak runs over)

Then closing statements on Wednesday and Thurdsay.

I think that will be Module 2 over.
Module 3 will start in January

DuncinToffee · 07/12/2023 10:10

Straight in with EOTHO to start today's session

Johnson's hair, semi combed?

DuncinToffee · 07/12/2023 10:20

Johnson said in his statement that scientists were consulted because he assumed that was the case Confused

Roussette · 07/12/2023 10:45

Johnson absolutely flailing around like a freshly caught bloater fish

DuncinToffee · 07/12/2023 10:48

He is getting quite angry now justifying regional restrictions during the second wave

DuncinToffee · 07/12/2023 10:49

Being asked now why he abandoned his guided by science in Sep 2020

Roussette · 07/12/2023 10:50

There is some clenched fists and a lot of stuttering.

To me... Hugo Keith is looking on at this blustering with thinly disguised amusement almost

Sickening he demanded bigger fines, given partygate

RafaistheKingofClay · 07/12/2023 10:53

DuncinToffee · 07/12/2023 10:20

Johnson said in his statement that scientists were consulted because he assumed that was the case Confused

He’s going to be surprised when he finds out who was in charge of the country in summer 2020.

Basically what we’re learning here is that Johnson was a scientifically illiterate idiot who made popular decisions not hard ones, was lazy, work shy, had no leadership skills and a management style that pitted everyone against each other. Which is pretty much what we all suspected. He’s clearly turned up to this thinking he could just bluster his way through it and everyone would think it would be fine because he’s the great Boris Johnson.

MidnightOnceMore · 07/12/2023 10:56

This is an embarrassing performance. So infuriating.

"It was more abstract than detailed" - I mean why the actual fuck was he wasting his time on abstract debates when he needed to get on with his job which was protecting the British people.

DuncinToffee · 07/12/2023 10:57

You have to wonder what he was actually doing during all these meetings as he hardly remembers anything.......

Roussette · 07/12/2023 10:57

@RafaistheKingofClay You have 100% summed him up there

MidnightOnceMore · 07/12/2023 11:03

Johnson: waffle waffle waffle
Keith: The question I asked was...

MidnightOnceMore · 07/12/2023 11:06

Uncomfortable seeing all the 'let it rip' quotes in a clump like that.

catscatscurrantscurrants · 07/12/2023 11:07

You can hear a pin drop at the moment - Hugo Keith showing all the 'let it rip' moments to BJ. Absolute silence.

catscatscurrantscurrants · 07/12/2023 11:10

Johnson annoyed now, Dismissing HK's evidence as 'culled' from 'jottings' (Patrick Vallances's diary entries to be exact).

DuncinToffee · 07/12/2023 11:10

He had to counter the scientist with his let it rip comment as he was the only layman present Hmm

He is losing his temper now