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Dominic C Covid evidence 2

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Newtonianmechanics · 20/11/2023 15:44

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minou123 · 06/12/2023 22:21

bombastix · 06/12/2023 22:12

@minou123 / Johnson played the prejudices of the English like a fiddle. That was his particular and limited genius.

A lot of people knew and said he was unfit for office, a liar, and a predictable disaster. They were ignored.

Unfortunately the joke is on all us.

Absolutely. And unfortunately we have to live with the consequences.

I sometimes think some people think life is like a Hollywood film.

Bad decisions are made,everything turns to shit. But right at the end, the bad guy is dispatched and everything is all better and life is back to normal or better than before.

But it doesn't work like that. In real life, the consequences are felt for years later.

bombastix · 06/12/2023 22:26

No, the damage that Johnson did will take a decade to undo.

The only good thing is that he is finished in politics. No one is going to make him a Lord and bring him back. He is not even a useful idiot, which is something.

RafaistheKingofClay · 06/12/2023 22:39

It’s the TV I worry about. The urge to throw something at it is great.

Still hope he ends up in front of a criminal court for corporate manslaughter or some equivalent charge. Behind bars would be even better.

minou123 · 06/12/2023 22:43

bombastix · 06/12/2023 22:26

No, the damage that Johnson did will take a decade to undo.

The only good thing is that he is finished in politics. No one is going to make him a Lord and bring him back. He is not even a useful idiot, which is something.

useful idiot- you have a great way with words, You make me laugh 😃

You're right, I was trying to underplayed it, but yes, it will take decades to undo.

minou123 · 06/12/2023 22:46

RafaistheKingofClay · 06/12/2023 22:39

It’s the TV I worry about. The urge to throw something at it is great.

Still hope he ends up in front of a criminal court for corporate manslaughter or some equivalent charge. Behind bars would be even better.

Been there and got the t-shirt.
I once broke my TV watching Question Time.

It was years ago when they allowed whats-his-face, the leader of the BNP on the panel.
I was so bloody cross, I kicked the TV 😬

Roussette · 06/12/2023 22:54

I think it was hard to watch because we have had a break from the sack of porridge. And hearing all this lying bluster today brings it all back.
He's disgraceful

RafaistheKingofClay · 06/12/2023 23:03

My sister was an ICU nurse. It’s nice for him if he didn’t know Covid was bad and he didn’t have to watch news of healthcare workers dying because of inadequate PPE and worry that one day it might be a family member. Some of us didn’t get that relaxed feeling it was all going to be fine in Feb/March 2020. Except that every time he opens his mouth you know that it’s a lie and he almost certainly did know but just didn’t care.

Sorry for the rant. I think I missed that I was supposed to be encouraged by Boris shaking hands with everyone in March 2020.

minou123 · 06/12/2023 23:08

Rant away @RafaistheKingofClay

I have the same overall conclusion as you.
It is clear he was told how bad it was going to be, people will die, but he thought he knew better and was more intelligent than everyone else.

His ego is such that he cant admit he was a terrible PM, so he has to lie. And then make up more lies to cover up the crap lies.

But that's the story of his life.

minou123 · 06/12/2023 23:40

Fuck my life, he really is trying to re write history.

He's wittering on about how he intuitively knew lockdown would affect DV victims, vulnerable and Black and Ethnic minorities and how he fully considered the efftcs.

But he can't provide contemporaneous notes, meeting notes, records. And every other witness has said it wasn't considered.

Yet, he wants, expects and also demands that we must believe him.

He really believes that we must trust what he says, rather than all the other evidence to the contrary.

He is unbelievable.

minou123 · 06/12/2023 23:45

Ah, the long covid "bollocks" thing.

He is nor sorry that said that. He is not sorry that his administration used really appalling language about serious issues.

He is pissed off that we all know about it.

He is very angry that us minor plebs now know what he was truly saying and he is embarrassed that he can't lie his way out of this one.

LittleBowSheep · 07/12/2023 01:37

I did love the way that during his questioning Hugo made several references to Cobra meetings that Boris had 'not attended'.

Roussette · 07/12/2023 06:04

It is clear he was told how bad it was going to be, people will die, but he thought he knew better and was more intelligent than everyone else

I think the whole thing is he wanted to be a popular PM, and lockdowns didnt fit into that. That's why he had all those stupid nicknames for people in his cabinet, it was all a bit of a wheeze. Like anything he has done in life he doesn't work hard or learn or think of anyone but himself, and propping up his ego

Zonder · 07/12/2023 06:37

Is he back on stage today or is he done now?

Don't want Jenrick taking the camera off Johnson.

MidnightOnceMore · 07/12/2023 06:46

Zonder · 07/12/2023 06:37

Is he back on stage today or is he done now?

Don't want Jenrick taking the camera off Johnson.

The timing of Jenrick's resignation is extremely convenient for Johnson.

Roussette · 07/12/2023 07:03

Zonder · 07/12/2023 06:37

Is he back on stage today or is he done now?

Don't want Jenrick taking the camera off Johnson.

Another full day of him. I'm hoping we're having a bit of partygate within there

jgw1 · 07/12/2023 07:14

RafaistheKingofClay · 06/12/2023 20:32

Not for the first time I’m going to say health vs economy in a pandemic is a false dichotomy. It isn’t one vs the other because allowing a pandemic to run through your population damages your economy. Historically more than a timely and early lockdown. Why is he still talking about which advisors to prioritise?
And he can definitely fuck off with his we protected the NHS.

Fortunately the evidence is there for all to see that those countries that actred promptly had shorter and less damaging lockdowns and then we have the UK.

jgw1 · 07/12/2023 07:23

Roussette · 07/12/2023 06:04

It is clear he was told how bad it was going to be, people will die, but he thought he knew better and was more intelligent than everyone else

I think the whole thing is he wanted to be a popular PM, and lockdowns didnt fit into that. That's why he had all those stupid nicknames for people in his cabinet, it was all a bit of a wheeze. Like anything he has done in life he doesn't work hard or learn or think of anyone but himself, and propping up his ego

It is fascinating watching Boris be questioned by someone who does work hard and is intelligent and thoughtful in Hugo Keith, what a contrast.

minou123 · 07/12/2023 07:39

LittleBowSheep · 07/12/2023 01:37

I did love the way that during his questioning Hugo made several references to Cobra meetings that Boris had 'not attended'.

I was trying g to say the same thing, but you've worded it better than me.

It was brilliant. It was such a dig and you could see Boris getting more and more tense.

Hiugi:
▪︎ in this meeting - which you didn't attend - this was said.....
▪︎ in that meeting - which you didn't attend - Chris Whitty said......
▪︎ in this meeting - which you didn't attend - Matt Hancock was chairing........

Zonder · 07/12/2023 07:50

I'm sure he has no very good reasons for why he didn't attend.

bombastix · 07/12/2023 07:59

I agree the filleting of his lazy, slipshod persona was excellent.

I appreciate that this is not the Boris Johnson inquiry; but what you have to know is that this attitude, which was chaotic was not confined to COVID. It was all the time, everywhere.

He is going to be persona non grata in his own class for a long time, and that will cut him more than any of these questions. It is all about his ego.

I think he is about as close to a King in power as we have got to in several hundred years. And the people he enabled, Braverman being a great example, share that attitude and contempt. You only have to see her attitude in her letter to Sunak to see this.

I hope they are eviscerated at the next election and their poisonous attitudes.

minou123 · 07/12/2023 08:08

Boris has arrived early again today.

bombastix · 07/12/2023 08:14

Well that's disappointing; in another England he would have been greeted by a mob bearing rotten vegetables to pelt him with.

Hope springs external

bombastix · 07/12/2023 08:15

Seriously check his hair today; if he's tidied it up then he's actually worried.

RafaistheKingofClay · 07/12/2023 08:20

I’m going back in. Got to the bit where he’s trying to defend how people complaining how crap his government is a good thing.

DuncinToffee · 07/12/2023 08:34

I am impressed Minou and Rafa that you watched the whole thing on catch up.

I was watching live but did other things as well so no continious viewing hence the posting of tweets and other people's comments, missed the part after the last break.

I am busy this afternoon so not sure how much I will manage to catch later. But coffee on the ready for the start today Brew