Dominic C Covid evidence 2

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New thread for if old fills up.

That depends a little on whether you said all masks were useless, tbf. Which I am not about to recycle a row about.

Raab now talking about accountability.

He'll have to come back for modules 3-99 ...

I doubt this Raab could find his way to Scotland or Wales even with a map. He'd need actual sherpa assistance for Norn.

COMEDY GOLD as I was writing that ^^: Baroness Hallett ends with statement that Drakeford's been on the blower and that Raab twice talked about the Plaid government of Wales 'when of course it is in fact a Labour government'. Raab mutters, 'yes of course'.

Ends. I'm done. Need a drink.

@jgw1 and everyone else, thanks for the company this afternoon while @DuncinToffee was busy with real life.

How is he meant to know about these foreigners?

Well this is the bloke who didn't know the importance of the Dover port trade and claimed the sea was closed, amongst many other things.

It was people who couldnt afford masks being told to make them up from old socks. It had a very nasty whiff of them being expected to protect their "betters"

I said that people should be getting them for free. And a poster who agreed with all the restrictions replied "You think people should get them for free"

It was things like this that made me doubt peoples motives (when it came to the restrictions) quite frankly!!!!! In that case HER mask slipped!!!!!

Cheers

Yes, that's him. The international lawyer and foreign secretary.

Why would someone who AGREED with the restrictions not want people to get masks for free. It was a very suspicious look

@JenniferBooth I reckon the PPE procurement module is going to be very interesting, now witnesses can't wriggle out of appearing, although it's not due to hear witnesses in public till early 2025. But prelim hearings are due in early 2024, presumably to decide core participants and witnesses.

https://covid19.public-inquiry.uk/modules/procurement-module-5/

and was the Brexit Secretary, at the time he suddenly realised the importance of Dover.

It would be funny if it wasn't so fucking depressing.

Raab's ignorance makes me cringe for him – fresh each time.

I'm curled up under the sofa whimpering at the thought THIS is what passes for an actual minister of the UK government these days.

Raab as expected really. Always wanting to seize you warmly by the throat.

Not missed; I hope he stays away from government for good.

Big day tomorrow

I've managed to wiggle a few things around and may be able to watch Hancock live.

My predictions:
▪︎ he will do his "apology" speech again, like he did in Module 1.
▪︎ he will deny that he lied about having a world beating plan lin place. As far as he was concerned it was a world beating pandemic plan, but just wasn't a great plan for a....well...a pandemic.

▪︎ deny he made any inappropriate comments or cricket motions/analogies. He will pull a gormless face that says "err, I dont know what you're talking.about".
▪︎ he will at some point imply that it is actually he, who is the true victim of covid and how it has ruined his life.

https://x.com/AdamJSchwarz/status/1729907917447389203?s=20

Classism from Raab:

"Quite a few people, if I can say this, typically middle class families... for whom lockdown was an epiphany moment... There was something rather positive about that"

Mental health & domestic abuse in "other communities" had different outcome.

https://x.com/CovidJusticeUK/status/1729927993970004099?s=20

Today the inquiry saw a truly appalling email from Jenny Harries in which she recommended discharging covid positive patients from hospitals to care homes.

In the face of a virus that would go on to kill 230,000 people in this country, Jenny Harries was employed specifically to find a way to protect people and make the best of the situation.

It’s clear that instead she took the 'easiest' and cruelest option of sacrificing care home residents, some of the most vulnerable people in the country.

It was families like ours that paid the awful price for her failure and it’s absolutely disgraceful that she has since been promoted, made a Dame and is head of the UKHSA.

Has it been covered yet that working class people were more likely to be fined and indeed..........were

Kind of, yes.

This module 2 was really meant to focus on government decision making from Jan 2029 to March 2020.

But, as is always the case, other topics such as fines, care homes, PPE etc have been touched upon.

A couple of weeks ago some Police guy gave evidence, as did Priti Patel and they touched upon the disproportionate fines, (as well as policing protests etc), but they didn't get really into the finer points.
IIRC, they spoke briefly how Black and Ethnic minorities were more likely to be fined, something like 3 or 5 times more likely.
Bit as I say, they didn't go into too much detail.

We are only on Module 2, there are many more modules to go.
We will have specific modules on policing (fines etc), care homes, vaccines, PPE etc where they will really go into the minute detail of what happened.

Matt Hancock up now, facing Hugo Keith KC. Talking about 'pandemic plan'.

Ha ha.

One off the bingo list.
"We had pandemic plans, world beating pandemic plans......its just these were inadequate for a pandemic"

Keith has already got him to agree that there wasn't a plan. Hancock too busy boasting about how he had to build one himself with his bare hands and brilliant mind, and walked straight into that one.

Hancock just isn't very bright is he.
At least Gove had the wit to prepare and prevaricate.

Keith has read Hancock's diaries (that aren't contemporaneous diaries, he has already established with Hancock, more 'recollections'). Says he's surprised by the omission of Hancock telling his PM he needed to lock down the country.

He's arguing with Hugo Keith KC about the content of the questions now.