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Dominic Cummings Covid evidence

996 replies

Newtonianmechanics · 31/10/2023 09:17

Is anyone going to watch this man give evidence today?

Apparently there is a vigil in Barnard Castle ahead of this.

The shopping trolleys emoji seems to mean they think Carrie was controlling Boris from the last few days. Wonder if this will feature.

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EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 15:12

And this quote loop thing that seems an issue.

You’ll have to put a bit of effort in to look stuff up.

bombastix · 03/11/2023 15:26

Borageandchips · 03/11/2023 14:35

I really think that in the event of war, or a pandemic, or some other serious crisis, then the current government of the day should have to make way to a cross-party team of experts in pertinent areas. Something like Cobra but bigger and made up of representatives of all political persuasions with experienced members of the House of Lords too and all of this ridiculous in-fighting could be avoided and odious men like Dominic Cummings could not flex his ego to the extent he did.

But these are the hated experts of Cummings and Gove! I think in part that explains why Cummings is bitter. He was actually a person with little influence once he was in No 10. Relatively less influential because unlike everyone else he dealt with, he did not have a network of people to support him. He tried hard to get it. He insisted on teams of special special advisers accountable to him, he looked for oddballs and weirdos (his words). But he failed.

Good campaigner. But not someone who realised until too late that he needed a base of his own.

DuncinToffee · 03/11/2023 16:06

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 15:11

I do and did when it was first proposed as it’s easy to find.

I’m sure you are capable of finding it if you put the words in google.
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It wasn't a trick question, just asking for clarification of what you mean so I can give you an answer or have a conversation about it.

And look it up is not an answer.

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 16:18

DuncinToffee · 03/11/2023 16:06

It wasn't a trick question, just asking for clarification of what you mean so I can give you an answer or have a conversation about it.

And look it up is not an answer.

I didn’t say it was a trick question. You don’t need my wording, it’s all there easily accessible if you want to read up.

Since I get too many questions then told not to fill up the thread, you read and post what you think on it. You don’t need me to fill it in for you.

DuncinToffee · 03/11/2023 16:20

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 16:18

I didn’t say it was a trick question. You don’t need my wording, it’s all there easily accessible if you want to read up.

Since I get too many questions then told not to fill up the thread, you read and post what you think on it. You don’t need me to fill it in for you.

Maybe if you actually answered questions that wouldn't happen.

I don't mind you keeping the thread active Smile

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 16:22

DuncinToffee · 03/11/2023 16:20

Maybe if you actually answered questions that wouldn't happen.

I don't mind you keeping the thread active Smile

I did answer the majority and now you’re on your own

If you can google a couple of words

BIossomtoes · 03/11/2023 16:24

Bloody hell, we’re back to “go and google it” again. You really, really don’t get how this works, do you @EasternStandard?

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 16:25

BIossomtoes · 03/11/2023 16:24

Bloody hell, we’re back to “go and google it” again. You really, really don’t get how this works, do you @EasternStandard?

Laughing at how fast your trigger post is.

Like clockwork. Good job 👏

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 16:26

And you’re still cross 😬

That’s brilliant

MidnightOnceMore · 03/11/2023 16:29

KnickerlessParsons · 03/11/2023 14:42

I agree, and said so at the time

Labour agreed to support all govt decisions during the pandemic, but it would have been better to go one step further and have a joint committee.
My guess is that it wouldn't have changed much - fewer parties perhaps (or maybe not) but decisions were made in the heat of the moment, with new information at every turn and no real established process to follow (or at least none that had been written by someone who had actually experienced a pandemic), I don't think the decisions made would have been any better. Different perhaps, but no better.

I think it would have changed a LOT.

The Tories would have at least had to pretend to take it seriously.

They would not have been able to sideline or ignore officials who gave inconvenient advice.

BIossomtoes · 03/11/2023 16:30

No, I’m highly amused. So predictable.

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 16:30

MidnightOnceMore · 03/11/2023 16:29

I think it would have changed a LOT.

The Tories would have at least had to pretend to take it seriously.

They would not have been able to sideline or ignore officials who gave inconvenient advice.

If it meant more like Drakeford then not for me

Too draconian

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 16:31

BIossomtoes · 03/11/2023 16:30

No, I’m highly amused. So predictable.

Goodo talking of predictably I’ll see how long you keep bringing it up. Maybe next year…

BIossomtoes · 03/11/2023 16:41

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 16:31

Goodo talking of predictably I’ll see how long you keep bringing it up. Maybe next year…

It’s you who keeps telling people to Google, not me. I’ll pick you up on it every time you do it - the answer lies in your hands. Anyway, enough derailment of an interesting thread.

It was something I never understood that in the face of the worst catastrophe for 75 years party politics wasn’t ditched and a coalition government formed as Churchill did. Johnson clearly didn’t think his hero was worth emulating.

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 16:43

BIossomtoes · 03/11/2023 16:41

It’s you who keeps telling people to Google, not me. I’ll pick you up on it every time you do it - the answer lies in your hands. Anyway, enough derailment of an interesting thread.

It was something I never understood that in the face of the worst catastrophe for 75 years party politics wasn’t ditched and a coalition government formed as Churchill did. Johnson clearly didn’t think his hero was worth emulating.

And it’s you giving my posts that much head space

It was a while ago now.. maybe move on.

You’ll pick me up every time? Jesus that is a good retirement hobby. Not.

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 16:45

And kick yourself for the derailment it was yours

DuncinToffee · 03/11/2023 16:48

The Covid Inquiry website is updated with the details for next week

Mark Sedwill on Wednesday and Priti Patel on Thursday

https://covid19.public-inquiry.uk/public-hearings/module-2-public-hearings-timetable/

jgw1 · 03/11/2023 17:13

DuncinToffee · 03/11/2023 16:20

Maybe if you actually answered questions that wouldn't happen.

I don't mind you keeping the thread active Smile

It is somewhat reminiscent of those posters who insisted on repeating that Boris did nothing wrong because he is so special he needed a birthday party when no one else was having them, which kept the partygate threads alive for months reminding everyone how awful Boris was.

Part of me thinks they were working hard on behalf of the opposition.

jgw1 · 03/11/2023 17:16

BIossomtoes · 03/11/2023 16:41

It’s you who keeps telling people to Google, not me. I’ll pick you up on it every time you do it - the answer lies in your hands. Anyway, enough derailment of an interesting thread.

It was something I never understood that in the face of the worst catastrophe for 75 years party politics wasn’t ditched and a coalition government formed as Churchill did. Johnson clearly didn’t think his hero was worth emulating.

It takes a strong person to trust and allow others voices to be heard, listened to and acted upon.

BIossomtoes · 03/11/2023 17:19

jgw1 · 03/11/2023 17:16

It takes a strong person to trust and allow others voices to be heard, listened to and acted upon.

Very true. I guess they wouldn’t want the full extent of their ineptitude exposed to politicians from other parties.

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 17:20

I’m a bit 😳 at the commitment of a few posters to follow something as non-important as not googling for someone when they have access and are capable

Out or all the things in the world. Perhaps CBT idk anything to get out of that kind of head space

It’s not good

As for not answering @jgw1 endless questions. I am reminded it’s pointless and did forget. I’ll not do it next time.

Newtonianmechanics · 03/11/2023 17:23

Googling it isn't am answer unless its as black and white as someone's telephone number.
If you stated what you meant and thoughts on it then maybe we could discuss it.

Patel hmmm that could be interesting. Remember when she messed the numbers up through nerves? To be fair I would do something like that.

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jgw1 · 03/11/2023 17:24

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 17:20

I’m a bit 😳 at the commitment of a few posters to follow something as non-important as not googling for someone when they have access and are capable

Out or all the things in the world. Perhaps CBT idk anything to get out of that kind of head space

It’s not good

As for not answering @jgw1 endless questions. I am reminded it’s pointless and did forget. I’ll not do it next time.

I can find lots of information about UK criticial national infrastructure, which is making it rather hard to find information about essential infrastructure.

Perhaps you could suggest an alternative search term to help me?

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 17:26

Newtonianmechanics · 03/11/2023 17:23

Googling it isn't am answer unless its as black and white as someone's telephone number.
If you stated what you meant and thoughts on it then maybe we could discuss it.

Patel hmmm that could be interesting. Remember when she messed the numbers up through nerves? To be fair I would do something like that.

There’s a legal definition. Or you can read up generally on it

It’ll be good for you

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 17:27

jgw1 · 03/11/2023 17:24

I can find lots of information about UK criticial national infrastructure, which is making it rather hard to find information about essential infrastructure.

Perhaps you could suggest an alternative search term to help me?

Well done that’s a start, keep going