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Dominic Cummings Covid evidence

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Newtonianmechanics · 31/10/2023 09:17

Is anyone going to watch this man give evidence today?

Apparently there is a vigil in Barnard Castle ahead of this.

The shopping trolleys emoji seems to mean they think Carrie was controlling Boris from the last few days. Wonder if this will feature.

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jgw1 · 03/11/2023 17:30

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 17:26

There’s a legal definition. Or you can read up generally on it

It’ll be good for you

Unhelpfully googling legal definition of essential infrastructure uk, just throws up more information about cricitical national infrastructure. Could you perhaps suggest an alternative search term so I can learn more about essential infrastructure?

jgw1 · 03/11/2023 17:31

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 17:27

Well done that’s a start, keep going

Its not really a stat though is it, because I am getting results about something different. In fact it is most unhelpful. If only there was someone who had a link to what essential infrastucture is.

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 17:32

Aren’t you a teacher? I’m surprised it’s this hard

There’s a report, you have the words a computer and you want to know more… basic research. Go

Newtonianmechanics · 03/11/2023 17:33

EasternStandard
Well done that’s a start, keep going

Its not really a stat though is it, because I am getting results about something different. In fact it is most unhelpful. If only there was someone who had a link to what essential infrastucture is.

*This is better than the Krypton factor or an escape room.🤦‍♀️

Essential Infrastructure or 'Critical Infrastructure' means assets, infrastructure, systems and networks that provide essential services necessary for social and economic wellbeing and is typically public infrastructure.

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Newtonianmechanics · 03/11/2023 17:34

Am I close?🤦‍♀️

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EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 17:35

Ooh a google 👏

You’ve all wasted class time

Now find the list of what’s included in the U.K.

jgw1 · 03/11/2023 17:35

Newtonianmechanics · 03/11/2023 17:33

EasternStandard
Well done that’s a start, keep going

Its not really a stat though is it, because I am getting results about something different. In fact it is most unhelpful. If only there was someone who had a link to what essential infrastucture is.

*This is better than the Krypton factor or an escape room.🤦‍♀️

Essential Infrastructure or 'Critical Infrastructure' means assets, infrastructure, systems and networks that provide essential services necessary for social and economic wellbeing and is typically public infrastructure.

Oh, when the pp says essential infrastructure do they actually mean criticial national infrastructure, much of which is privately owned and so clearly not controlled or the direct responsibility of ministers?

PerkingFaintly · 03/11/2023 17:36

It takes a strong person to trust and allow others voices to be heard, listened to and acted upon.

Indeed. I haven't yet read the transcript of MacNamara's evidence, but these reported excerpts are heartbreaking – and worth repeating here:

In her written evidence MacNamara said: “Women working in No 10 and the Cabinet Office were experiencing very obvious sexist treatment. This was their experience, and it was impacting on their work as they were finding this distressing and frustrating on top of an already distressing and frustrating situation.

“The dominant culture was macho and heroic. Neither are the preserve of men (women can be macho and heroic too) but the culture was problematic because it meant debate and discussion was limited, junior people were talked over and it felt that everything was contaminated by ego. It was positively unhelpful when the country needed thoughtful and reflective decision making.”

She told the inquiry she had frequently requested counselling for the stress involved, without success.

In an email to staff she said: “Am concerned about the impact that recent months have had on our teams. And in particular that we are not providing enough support for those who worked during the intense period on C-19. What do I have to do to get a counsellor available that we can point people to? I have had a number of people break down in tears on me this week so this is urgent.”

In response, Katharine Hammond, the director of the civil contingencies secretariat, said in an email in April 2020: “Sadly I 100% agree this is an issue. Other things I thought might help:
– having more female professional voices in the room: chief nursing officer, commissioner, head of NCA all amazing women
– frankly, there are one or two men at DG [director general] level who just need to be told their behaviours are driving this and to stop it
– trying to make sure we don’t have a room full of men and all [the] women on Zoom (it’s harder to be part of the conversation)
– putting more women in the chair”.
[...]
To try to correct the bias MacNamara bought multiple copies of Caroline Criado-Perez book Invisible Women and handed them to officials and advisers. In her evidence she wrote: “The exclusion of a female perspective led to significant negative consequences, including the lack of thought given to childcare in the context of school closures. There was a serious lack of thinking about domestic abuse and the vulnerable, about carers and informal networks for how people look after each other in families and communities. There was not enough thinking about the impact on single parents of some of the restrictions. [...]"
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/01/absence-of-humanity-helen-macnamara-evidence-to-covid-inquiry

‘Absence of humanity’: Helen MacNamara’s evidence to Covid inquiry

Former deputy cabinet secretary describes misogyny, lack of planning and over-confidence in government’s pandemic response

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/01/absence-of-humanity-helen-macnamara-evidence-to-covid-inquiry

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 17:37

A reminder - it’s not my wording it’s STC

So don’t look to me look at the report

jgw1 · 03/11/2023 17:40

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 17:37

A reminder - it’s not my wording it’s STC

So don’t look to me look at the report

Are you able to provide a link to this report that you are so keen for us to look at?

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 17:47

jgw1 · 03/11/2023 17:40

Are you able to provide a link to this report that you are so keen for us to look at?

It has already been linked below.

If you are keen it’s there to read, if not don’t. You don’t need my view on whether you should or not.

jgw1 · 03/11/2023 17:49

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 17:47

It has already been linked below.

If you are keen it’s there to read, if not don’t. You don’t need my view on whether you should or not.

Then it will be easy enough for you to provide the link again. Thank you very much.

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 17:50

Scroll back you can do it..

jgw1 · 03/11/2023 17:53

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 17:50

Scroll back you can do it..

Is this the report you are refering to?

https://committees.parliament.uk/work/3699/cyber-security-critical-national-infrastructure-inquiry/

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 17:54

Lol at this point I reckon you’d send the student out of the room

MidnightOnceMore · 03/11/2023 18:03

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-59139389

Presumably the Tories kicked it into the long grass?

I can't see it getting government support, imagine if your Children's Commissioner blocked a lockdown that COBR said was really needed.

Pupils in masks at a Huddersfield primary school

Bill to prevent school shutdowns passes first test

Bid to ban emergency school closures in England and safeguard pupils, is heard in the Commons.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-59139389

DuncinToffee · 03/11/2023 19:10

Did that bill get a second reading in February 2022?

jgw1 · 03/11/2023 19:14

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 17:54

Lol at this point I reckon you’d send the student out of the room

Bye then.

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 19:15

jgw1 · 03/11/2023 19:14

Bye then.

😂 come back later when your research ability is better

D- wasting class time

MidnightOnceMore · 03/11/2023 19:33

DuncinToffee · 03/11/2023 19:10

Did that bill get a second reading in February 2022?

Looks like it stalled: https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3063 and https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3063/news

Since when did the Executive like to give away power? I could see it possibly to Parliament, but not the Children's Commissioner because you would be unable to act if they were a bit wacky.

The government are looking to restrict strikes in schools, not sure if they'll have enough time to get anything all the way through on that.

DuncinToffee · 03/11/2023 19:37

Thank you

Schools and Educational Settings (Essential Infrastructure and Opening During Emergencies) Bill
The 2021-2022 session of Parliament has prorogued and this Bill will make no further progress.

DuncinToffee · 03/11/2023 19:43

Anne Longfield gave evidence on 5th October if anyone wants to watch it on the youtube channel or read the transcript on the website

minou123 · 03/11/2023 20:08

DuncinToffee · 03/11/2023 19:43

Anne Longfield gave evidence on 5th October if anyone wants to watch it on the youtube channel or read the transcript on the website

Thanks @DuncinToffee

I'm looking forward to Mark Sedwells witness testimony. He is a name I know well. He was the Head of the Civil Service at the time.
I remember getting many messages from him, but it was very "corporate". You know, the "well done everyone, keep up the good work" type thing.

So, I'm looking forward to hearing what he really thinks..

Priti Patel - umm well, its certainly going to be interesting. Will she keep to the "BJ is the greatest man ever" line, or will she tell the truth?

jgw1 · 04/11/2023 05:44

minou123 · 03/11/2023 20:08

Thanks @DuncinToffee

I'm looking forward to Mark Sedwells witness testimony. He is a name I know well. He was the Head of the Civil Service at the time.
I remember getting many messages from him, but it was very "corporate". You know, the "well done everyone, keep up the good work" type thing.

So, I'm looking forward to hearing what he really thinks..

Priti Patel - umm well, its certainly going to be interesting. Will she keep to the "BJ is the greatest man ever" line, or will she tell the truth?

Presumably Priti's evidence will be part of her campaign to replace Rishi, quite how that pans out at the enquiry i am not sure.

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