Bournemouth incident

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Not sure what on earth has happened??

Awful news 💐

Jet skis are continuously moving along the water, always to close too the beach imo.

They arent going to be conducting CPR or using defibs on themselves are they, your point only makes sense if you're suggesting every single child should learn it to help keep others alive.

To be clear in this case it's not the childrens nor the parents fault regardless of what happened, it sounds like something else was at play anyway; but generally teaching your children water safety, researching online if you're not sure or booking on to the free courses and the like should be something parents strive to do.

My parents did make sure we all had first aid lessons (decent ones - two of us became qualified lifeguards). I am just thinking mine are getting to the age that I need to sort it for them.

This is basic "keeping-your-child-alive" stuff that parents should be drumming into them from the day they are old enough to understand it.

As someone who lost a young family member in this kind of situation I’m sadly aware that you can drum whatever you want into kids but accidents can still happen. Not that you shouldn’t make them aware of course.

Absolutely. There is unfortunately a huge element of luck in all this.

I am so sorry for your loss.

This. Living in a seaside place, it’s the same every summer here sadly. RNLI out constantly, HM Coastguard and the rescue helicopters a regular occurrence also. Tragic.

Sea and water safety including lakes should be a compulsory part of the curriculum - not just for kids who live by the sea - and tbh, a lot of parents would do well to research areas and learn about tide times etc as well.

Thinking of the poor families who are affected by this incident. The fact that someone has been arrested makes me think it was avoidable in the first place.

This. All reports say the man was "ON" the water so am presuming it was a jetski/boat type accident

Honestly - I agree with first poster - let’s drop some algebra or physics they will never use and teach them some skills that could possibly save their lives. Having grown up in Australia where I learnt to pull someone out of the water and resuscitate them at the age of 10 - since being in the uk for 25 odd years I have had to resuscitate two people and it’s not because o was first on the scene in both cases it was because I was the first on the scene to know how.

It seems the daily mail has leapt to a pier jumping incident. The police reports etc haven't said that at all but that the manslaughter guy was on the water.

It's a lot of people too with 10 involved.

I was on Bournemouth beach yesterday with my own teens. It’s incredibly upsetting.

I live in Bournemouth, I don’t know what happened, but jet skis are a noisy dangerous pain in the neck we have all summer.

They are not policed properly either,
they often ignore the rules as well and come in even closer to the shore.

Not a fan of the Mail but I think they would be pretty sure this is what happened before front paging it. There have been no mentions of a jet ski/ motor boat by any witnesses that I’ve seen. A lot of locals might assume jet ski as they are an absolute menace down there but I’m not sure they were involved in this case.

I'm so sorry for your loss. I wasn't trying to place blame or minimise anything. And I do appreciate that children do foolish things sometimes despite what they have been taught, and also that terrible accidents happen, despite all precautions.

My comment was i relation to the fact that we cannot and should not expect basic safety warnings to be left to school.

Personally I think we also need a return to the public safety warnings that used to be shown on TV when I was young (Deep water, fire, etc) and the "Charely Says" ones that were prevalent when my children were little.

Oh I know and I totally agree. I’m a teacher myself and the curriculum is rammed beyond belief.
We have safety assemblies from firefighters and paramedics. I think an assembly from the RNLI or another organisation would be ideal as another of the emergency services.
Just some basics.

Float to survive.
This is a rip.
Don’t jump off things.
Don’t enter the water to save someone else, throw a floating thing.

And not just for children who live near the sea.

Such sad news. The water is a lot of fun, but also has its dangers. Even if you are being safe, you can still have an accident, and anything that happens in or on water is usually worse because of that.

The police have asked people not to speculate. So here is everyone speculating.

Water safety education should not come down to parents alone: many younger parents will not have had any such lessons themselves.

I'm mid 50s and recall public service films on telly about water safety; also short films shown in school (not taught by teachers, so not a burden on them). Its so important and needn't be a huge undertaking.
Parents then should remind their children of the dangers and/or supervise when they go out near water, but watery safety education shouldn't fall entirely upon them.

There are many very bad parents; their children shouldn't have to miss out on important safety education.

I agree wholeheartedly there need to be more public safety ads on the TV.

When I was growing up there were loads (not the UK). I particulalry recall water safety ones; drink driving ones but also not leaving dogs in cars on a hot day. Plus how to exit your house safely in a fire. (My childhood best friend died in a house fire).

Ds said it was one of those rubber things dragged behind a boat with lots of people on it. No idea if that's true probably just ds speculating.

Bloody hell, people expect schools to do everything! It's not the job of teachers to give kids life skills, it's their parents' responsibility.

Except that children these days don’t watch live tv so it’s much harder to reach a broad audience cost effectively because there are so many different channels/ apps etc. and some subscribed services block ads.

call me cynical but I'm not convinced that an RNLI assembly would stop kids jumping off a pier if all the “ danger do not jump from pier” signs didn’t. Everyone who jumps from Durdle Door knows people have died doing it and they still do it. I’m not sure what the answer is.

We used to have lots of public safety films - why did they stop? Relying on the public and younger generations to just know some things doesn't seem wise to me.

I'm digressing here as we don't know if a jetski was involved.

And imagine that you or I could walk into a 'shop', buy a jetski today and go to any beach, with no training whatsoever and whizz up and down the coast line with no information about what buoys mean, how close one is allowed to the coast line of a busy beach or to have any kind of licence or insurance. It's absolutely sickening.

Of course there are people who are responsible owners and users of jetskis but from what I've witnessed (as I live near a coast/busy beach) every single year is a lot of unbelievable 'near misses' by absolutely entitled wankers who believe their 'fun' overrides everyone else's enjoyment.

Those poor children, and all others who witnessed what happened that will live with them forever. Those parents who said 'stay safe, see you later', but won't every see their kids again. It's heart breaking.

I didn’t know Bournemouth coastline had rip tides. As I said I live here! From DM article it does look like some kind of jumping off the pier thing. @PoxyAndIKnowIt makes some good points about education.

But loathe the jet skis we have all summer.

Poor kids, however things happened.