Bournemouth incident

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Not sure what on earth has happened??

Awful news 💐

There are free swim safe courses run by the life guards which parents can get their kids enrolled on, my DC school have given out leaflets before.

Comments about kids jumping off Piers etc/ignoring warning signs.

2 children have sadly lost their lives. Please stop speculating.

Swimming is part of National Curriculum in England in Primary School, doesn’t water safety get covered in those lessons?

There have been general comments on this thread about what often happens in that area - people jumping off the pier.

Not one person before you said 'the kids are at fault'.

Just stop it

Teachers can reach everything. The curriculum is already packed solid. Whilst some basic swimming and water safety is in the curriculum, other things would have to be pulled to add a more in-depth approach added. Problem is people want teachers and schools to teach more and more of this kind of staff all the time. There are only so many hours in a school day.

This is another thing parents need to be teaching their children and, especially when going to be near water, reiterating the message.

Seems likely. Police ask us not to speculate then don't release enough relevant information. Thanks to social media, all sorts of rumours will circulate, some true, some not.

Education on water safety doesn't need to be schools.

Who remembers the safety tv adverts from the past. Don't climb electricity pilions, watch where you fly kites, various roads safety campaigns.

Even last year Scottish Water put a photo on FB that showed a small section of Loch Lomond from the air, there was a line where it goes from sandy beach, to black as it suddenly gets deep, really deep, like take a step further and you go from knee deep to wildly out your depth deep.
I've always known the theory that Lochs can suddenly get very deep but that picture was an eye opener. The picture was release after 4 people were killed in one weekend.

Comments may have been elsewhere. This is not the only social medium.
Maybe YOU should just stop it.

2 children are dead. If you want to have a fight chrisxx, shame on you. Entirely inappropriate.

Why can't parents?

One report said they sustained injuries which suggests they were perhaps hit with something like a jet ski. So sad.

Regarding the teaching comments - I also believe it should feature more heavily on the curriculum. It's ok saying the parents should teach the kids, but sometimes parents don't know the dangers either, especially if they're not familiar with open water.

I'm saying this as a parent, someone who lives by the sea and I am also a teacher. I could think of a hundred things I'd take out of my year to replace with something so important. The amount of accidents and near misses we hear about each year are frightening, and many could be prevented with better awareness.

Thinking of the poor families that have lost their children 😔

Where have any of the news reports said the youngsters were in trouble in the water? Maybe they've all done their water safety at swimming lessons. Maybe they are all fine swimmers.

It only takes one dick head with a jet ski and a nasty streak to cause havoc, if that is what happened, and all the water safety training in the world can't fix that.

Poor kids and their poor families.

Instead of arguing over fault and curriculums, make a difference and be proactive by talking to your own children about this incident. (And the several other water-related deaths that make the news every year.) Water is fun but also dangerous, no matter how big, strong, brave and brainy you get.

Its horrific. Someone is being investigated for manslaughter.

I saw the reports as they came in yesterday and living in a different part of the country but also by the sea became a bit hooked on following them. I had kids similar ages and it's so sad (obviously sad regardless of age just makes you more aware.)

The stuff people were posting whi said they'd been there though- I don't think anyone really knew. One person said they saw an armed police unit so it had lept to some kind of attack. Others have said they were pulling bodies out the water. The beach was cleared for the helicopters so people can't really have seen.

There are pier jumpers everywhere so another easy to jump to conclusion. The police report does say "on the water" so more likely something out of control. And manslaughter suggests it wasnt intentional. We won't really know will we. But what an awful day for those families.

It is for parents to teach water safety yes (though we don’t know what happened here). Parents should also prioritise learning to swim over other hobbies. I spent years at the pool side

My guess.is a powerboat incident from the "on the water" words and the number of people.involved.. (and because we live near the coast and I see how so many people drive powerboats )

My heart breaks for the children and their families

Teaching kids is one thing but how many people really remember 30-40 years down the line everything they learned in school. Parents need to be told / reminded too.

TV ads, social media campaigns is what is needed. Clunk-click it sticks with you.

If it was a boat / jet ski that's caused the tragedies then warning on how to use them safely. People shouldn't be able to buy and use without lessons.

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This is basic "keeping-your-child-alive" stuff that parents should be drumming into them from the day they are old enough to understand it.

Inappropriate comments in this situation, there is absolutely no suggestion that the children were doing anything risky at all.

The daily mail article this morning suggests pier jumping as the cause but the police reporting seemed to hint at a jetski/boat or something over and above the kids jumping. It is so sad. I grew up near the sea and I am very conscious of the danger as well as the fun. By the sounds of it, the numbers could have been worse without the work of the lifeguards and emergency services.

I’ve seen some vile comments on social media as the story was unfolding- comments about immigrants, comments about why the nhs was sending so many resources and that’s why it’s in trouble etc. Clearly it was an awful event for everyone involved including the children and their families, bystanders and the emergency crews.

So presumably you know.and youve trained your kids in CPR too and how to use defib machines?

The post I quoted was the first on the thread to bring up blaming the children, by incorrectly saying that so many 'on here' were blaming the children. The thread before then did not have anyone saying that at all.

It's just a dog whistle to attract the 'so many'.

Disgraceful.

From the Daily Mail -

The 12-year-old girl and a 17-year-old boy who died in Bournemouth yesterday had jumped from the pier before being dragged out to sea by a riptide, MailOnline can reveal today.

Ten children were hurt - two fatally - after getting into trouble in the English Channel close to a packed Dorset beach full of half term holidaymakers and locals yesterday afternoon.

The sands close to the pier had to be cleared so two air ambulances could land but sadly the two schoolchildren later died in hospital.

Witnesses described harrowing scenes as CPR was being administered on the beach - with some 'idiots' with phones seen filming lifeguards trying to revive the two children who had gone into cardiac arrest.

A man in his 40s, who had been on the water at the time of the incident, has been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter. One source claimed that he may have been encouraging them to jump before the tragedy. He remains in custody.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12147275/Bournemouth-beach-major-incident-Girl-12-boy-17-die-jumping-pier.html