Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 6

[ofwarren]

These threads are to discuss the disappearance of Nicola Bulley from St Michael's on Wyre.

No speculation without evidence please.

Here are some frequently asked questions, with answers:

1.Where do Nicola and her husband work?

They both work from home which is why he was at home on the day she went missing.

2.Where was the dog harness found / the phone?

Dog harness was found near the river edge not the bench, phone was on on/near the bench.

1. Has the river been searched?

Yes by the police and volunteers from the Specialist Search team

1. Had the dog been in the water, and maybe Ms Bulley went in after her?

Willow appeared distressed but ‘bone dry’, according to the woman who found her. There was no sign of her having gone in the river.

1. Why would she leave her phone on the bench?

Nicola’s phone was found on the bench, still connected to a conference call. So whatever happened, there was no time to end the call or to alert others on the call.

1. Why was she on mute with no video for her business meeting?

This was not unusual, She used to go on work meeting calls with video off and microphone

1. Where was her partner while she was out walking their dog?

He was at home at the time.

1. What about this abandoned house?

Its not abandoned. Its owned by a lovely family who have lived in the village for generations and would do anything they can to help in the search for Nikki.
It has been searched, inside and outside, from top to bottom by the police. This has been clarified with the family themselves and also with the police.
They have never refused entry to the police or told them they need a warrant to search.

1. Did Nicola have a dog ball with her?

No she didn’t she used to but stopped taking a dog ball on walks.

10. Was she swept out to sea?

The police Seargent has said it’s now a possibility Nicola’s body could have drifted out to sea.

11. We’re CCTV cameras working in the area:

The CCTV camera which would have captured everything unfortunately wasn’t working. But the police are actively working to identify 700 motorists travelling in the Garstang Road area on the 27TH of January.

12. Are there any other paths she could have gone down?

Apart from the river, there are only three exits, two of which are covered by CCTV. On her way in, she was seen by several people. No one saw her leave.

I think people are getting confused about witnesses. There was an early appeal for an elderly male dog walker (31st January) - his wife later spoke to the papers about what her husband had seen.

"Police believe the witness, described as a well-built, 6ft man in his 70s who was walking a white fluffy dog, spoke to a woman who raised the alarm after finding Ms Bulley’s dog running loose near the river."

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/01/31/nicola-bulley-missing-dog-walker-lancashire-constabulary-witness/

I’m still confused about the lady who found the dog. Did she find it alone or at the same time as the man with the small white dog, and why doesn’t the timeline refer to him? If he was talking about fishing bait attracting the dog what did he mean by that, did they think someone had jumped in, and if not why not at least call 101?

I'm confused too
I remember the fishing bait thing at the time but I'm not sure where it all fits in.
Did anyone else see the caravan park owner?

I think there was a third-hand report from one of Nicola's friends that said caravan park lady was followed through the gate by a man. And that there was another man also there.

I think it was the same report that mentioned fishbait and the phone being on the ground.

I bet the caravan lady wishes she had stayed in bed that morning . All these businesses affected until they find out what has happened .

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/

Meanwhile, a business owner who raised the alarm about Ms Bulley's disappearance has spoken for the first time of the moment she came across her 'worried' dog Willow by the side of a river.
The woman, who did not want be named, spotted the brown springer spaniel on the river bank on Friday morning.
She also found Ms Bulley's mobile phone on a bench by the side of the river, under a tree which has a sign warning of deep water nailed to it.
Bizarrely, Willow was running free and the woman found the dog's harness on the ground next to the river.
She called her daughter-in-law who called Ms Bulley's long-term partner Paul Ansell, who dialled 999.
The woman, who runs a business in picturesque St Michaels on Wyre, said she knew of Ms Bulley and hoped nothing 'bad' had happened to her.
Speaking today, she said: 'I saw the dog and I recognised it, but I suddenly couldn't think whose dog it was.
'There was a mobile phone on the bench and there was also something between the bench and the river so I went and looked, and it was a dog harness.
'The dog looked worried so I tied her up and rushed home as I had to go to an appointment.
'I then went and spoke to my daughter-in-law and she immediately knew who the dog was, alerted the woman's partner and that was it - the police were on it.'

Still looking for the other news I read yesterday.

Phones have an accelerometer or movement detector, they would have been able to tell when it was last moved.

I bet!
It says in our local paper today with an interview with one of the residents that they feel 'sullied'. No wonder.

Link to neoprene man missing person

"I think there was a third-hand report from one of Nicola's friends that said caravan park lady was followed through the gate by a man. And that there was another man also there.

I think it was the same report that mentioned fishbait and the phone being on the ground."

Yes. There's been a lot of confusion in the reporting around this finding of the dog.

I think there's been enough speculation about caravan park lady.

I quite agree. Have people already forgotten what happened at the 'abandoned house' the other day? Are they trying to stir up a vigilante mob against this woman, her business, and her family? 'Has she got a son?' FGS.

Are all the resources ( 40 detectives, extensive river searches continuing, 700 motorists being traced etc) being employed simply because its such a high profile case? What's the difference between this case and the many other missing people? Can it really be because of the public interest?

Because finding dogs isn't really that unusual, there are endless posts about lost dogs, phones, keys, coats etc on my fb and yet no one has gone missing. I don't think a rational response to finding a dog/phone would be to immediately thinks drowning/abduction

They've moved on to another business owner now don't worry with the van stuff. They'll get through the population here fairly quickly.

Me neither but generally, when we find dogs here we take it home and/or put a post on social media.
I don't remember a time when someone just tied it up and left it.

@SueG60 you've ignored the only comment that I was challenging you on was the one you made saying

"FFS.. its not a suicide, if it was you don't bother taking your dog with you, arrange a social thing 10 mins before, log in to a work call etc."

Well I say that yes, often people do. How fucking dare you type "You obviously didn't know those people as well as you thought you did." How fucking horrid are you?

I never said these people hadn't been low in mood at any point. I never said that there wasn't a trigger. I said they made immediate plans, that they engaged with work, friends, family...right up until the moment they didn't.

Certainly is a certain Cpot here isn’t there.

It’s all just so odd but no theory apart from maybe aliens is impossible however unlikely.

Slipping and falling in a well known route and sinking but yet floating away to never been seen again in the space of mere hours in cold water isn’t very likely but possible according to the police.

Deciding knowing the area to be able to just bugger off be that for three weeks, three years or three decades because you’ve had enough. Not impossible. Maybe unlikely but possible.

Same as a suicide or an abduction.

A case like this with zero evidence of anything at all actually happening but that a slip a trip a fight some blood a goodbye letter or anything. Just your dog and a phone Just left behind not beaten or tied up not a smashed screen or anything. Unlikely but clearly not impossible since here we are.

I've found an old article that mentions fishbait
What do you make of this?

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/nicola-bulley-spotted-laughing-joking-26134221?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

This is a vile and inaccurate comment.

I am literally sat next to a woman who last June arranged to meet her husband in the park at 2pm. They spoke in the phone at 1pm.

At half past 2, she found him hanging, in their hall.

If it’s a popular fishing spot just some dropped bait. If someone has a vendetta against dogs it could be more sinister to the dog. We often have warnings pop up about baited sausages to harm dogs locally.

No its not. She'll have been aware of whatever was going on in his life which could have driven him to that point. She might not have known he was going to do it when he did it, but after the event and thinking about it there will have been signs.

@SueG60 your comments are so wrong and hurtful and offensive to the friends and family of someone who has taken their own life. There are not always signs. If only there were.

"If it’s a popular fishing spot just some dropped bait."

There's a fishing hut around 25 metres from the bench.

That article does not mention lady caravan owner who we know found the dog at 0933 for a fact.

I don't know who these other dog walkers are but I make very little of that article. For a start it's the MEN who are notorious for printing anything as long as they get clicks.