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Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 6

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ofwarren · 09/02/2023 19:35

These threads are to discuss the disappearance of Nicola Bulley from St Michael's on Wyre.

No speculation without evidence please.

Here are some frequently asked questions, with answers:

1.Where do Nicola and her husband work?

They both work from home which is why he was at home on the day she went missing.

2.Where was the dog harness found / the phone?

Dog harness was found near the river edge not the bench, phone was on on/near the bench.

  1. Has the river been searched?

Yes by the police and volunteers from the Specialist Search team

  1. Had the dog been in the water, and maybe Ms Bulley went in after her?

Willow appeared distressed but ‘bone dry’, according to the woman who found her. There was no sign of her having gone in the river.

  1. Why would she leave her phone on the bench?

Nicola’s phone was found on the bench, still connected to a conference call. So whatever happened, there was no time to end the call or to alert others on the call.

  1. Why was she on mute with no video for her business meeting?

This was not unusual, She used to go on work meeting calls with video off and microphone

  1. Where was her partner while she was out walking their dog?

He was at home at the time.

  1. What about this abandoned house?

Its not abandoned. Its owned by a lovely family who have lived in the village for generations and would do anything they can to help in the search for Nikki.
It has been searched, inside and outside, from top to bottom by the police. This has been clarified with the family themselves and also with the police.
They have never refused entry to the police or told them they need a warrant to search.

  1. Did Nicola have a dog ball with her?

No she didn’t she used to but stopped taking a dog ball on walks.

  1. Was she swept out to sea?

The police Seargent has said it’s now a possibility Nicola’s body could have drifted out to sea.

  1. We’re CCTV cameras working in the area:

The CCTV camera which would have captured everything unfortunately wasn’t working. But the police are actively working to identify 700 motorists travelling in the Garstang Road area on the 27TH of January.

  1. Are there any other paths she could have gone down?

Apart from the river, there are only three exits, two of which are covered by CCTV. On her way in, she was seen by several people. No one saw her leave.

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itsnote · 10/02/2023 13:10

"I thought I understood where everything was here. Obviously not.

You're saying they could go through the kissing gate. Then across the field? Which field? Wouldn't they need to cross three fields and the camping field to get back to Rowanwater?

And haven't police said they've now got CCTV that covers entry and exit to Rowanwater?"

I don't know about the cctv to the road leading out of Rowanwater but you could avoid it by staying on grass no doubt. It'll probably just cover the gates because it's private residential.

If she'd got back to the bench with the dog as she normally would around, say 0920, then decided to or been forced to leave, she could go through the gate and follow the tree line up the side of Wyreside (maybe 75 metres) then straight across the field which is maybe another 100 metres back to the edge of Rowanwater. Follow that you'll come to the road.

I thought she was in the water, I still do really due to the police being quite certain, but I don't understand it.

I wonder what brought the caravan park owner out onto the path. Was she walking her dog? Her land and property are directly there next to the bench.

I don't know but I hope they find her soon. The red van thing is now drawing attention to yet another local business owner because someone has found a tatty red van on Google maps down the road. They need to find her, the whole area has become a target for oddballs now.

Goldpaw · 10/02/2023 13:11

I find such cases so scary ,How could someone just disappear with no Trace ,

What I find more bewildering is the number of bodies found where the identity isn't known. There was a man found in the English Channel in 2021 wearing a wetsuit and neoprene gloves and boots. White European but still unidentified today. Bizarre.

melonraspberry · 10/02/2023 13:11

ofwarren · 10/02/2023 11:56

I'm referring to the woman who we are not allowed to name, who tied up the dog.
She owns Wyresdale

I’ve read some of the reviews on a couple of sites and they say she manages the site completely alone, so her son presumably lives elsewhere.

SirVixofVixHall · 10/02/2023 13:14

confounded234 · 10/02/2023 13:10

They used the mobile phone information to determine the phone was in the vicinity of the bench at 9.20

I didn’t think that triangulation was specific to a couple of square metres as that seems to suggest though, at least it wasn’t when my relative went missing, which is not very long ago.

SueG60 · 10/02/2023 13:15

User45378754 · 10/02/2023 12:37

That’s my sense and the accident/falling in is a sensitive use of non committal language to save distress of family at this time and to follow standard communication guidelines around avoiding the use of the word suicide as it can be triggering for others.

FFS.. its not a suicide, if it was you don't bother taking your dog with you, arrange a social thing 10 mins before, log in to a work call etc. And you also don't chuck yourself in a shallow section of a river where there's no guarantee of drowning.

The family, friends and police communication is also totally inconsistent with it, they'd have used words like 'vulnerable'. If it was one, they would know. They'll have been through her internet history, read her texts, talked to everyone she knows and built up a picture.

People need to stop spreading this malicious BS.

itsnote · 10/02/2023 13:16

"I’ve read some of the reviews on a couple of sites and they say she manages the site completely alone"

She doesn't.

confounded234 · 10/02/2023 13:16

SirVixofVixHall · 10/02/2023 13:14

I didn’t think that triangulation was specific to a couple of square metres as that seems to suggest though, at least it wasn’t when my relative went missing, which is not very long ago.

Interesting, maybe this is yet another assumption. Phone vaguely in area around bench at 9.20 so police assuming it was on bench at 9.20?

Sorry to hear about your relative.

dawngreen · 10/02/2023 13:16

Her husband and her walked the dog in the top field, and he put the phone on the bench.

ofwarren · 10/02/2023 13:16

twitter.com/AnnaYoussefITV/status/1624032797743632385?t=xXjQMEAfoeJTlGBCSeH-Qg&s=19

ITV
Looking for Nicola - Lancashire Police search teams on the River Wyre close to the Shard Bridge.

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ofwarren · 10/02/2023 13:18

itsnote · 10/02/2023 13:16

"I’ve read some of the reviews on a couple of sites and they say she manages the site completely alone"

She doesn't.

Where does her husband come into this?
At first reports said she found the dog alone but now people are saying she was with her husband?
If she had this urgent appointment, why didn't her husband sort out the dog and phone issue?
Why did they just tie it there with string?

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pigsinoodies · 10/02/2023 13:18

itsnote · 10/02/2023 13:10

"I thought I understood where everything was here. Obviously not.

You're saying they could go through the kissing gate. Then across the field? Which field? Wouldn't they need to cross three fields and the camping field to get back to Rowanwater?

And haven't police said they've now got CCTV that covers entry and exit to Rowanwater?"

I don't know about the cctv to the road leading out of Rowanwater but you could avoid it by staying on grass no doubt. It'll probably just cover the gates because it's private residential.

If she'd got back to the bench with the dog as she normally would around, say 0920, then decided to or been forced to leave, she could go through the gate and follow the tree line up the side of Wyreside (maybe 75 metres) then straight across the field which is maybe another 100 metres back to the edge of Rowanwater. Follow that you'll come to the road.

I thought she was in the water, I still do really due to the police being quite certain, but I don't understand it.

I wonder what brought the caravan park owner out onto the path. Was she walking her dog? Her land and property are directly there next to the bench.

I don't know but I hope they find her soon. The red van thing is now drawing attention to yet another local business owner because someone has found a tatty red van on Google maps down the road. They need to find her, the whole area has become a target for oddballs now.

Thanks for the explanation. It seems an unlikely thing to do in an abduction scenario and completely unnecessary in a running away scenario.

I think there's been enough speculation about caravan park lady.

confounded234 · 10/02/2023 13:18

ofwarren · 10/02/2023 13:16

twitter.com/AnnaYoussefITV/status/1624032797743632385?t=xXjQMEAfoeJTlGBCSeH-Qg&s=19

ITV
Looking for Nicola - Lancashire Police search teams on the River Wyre close to the Shard Bridge.

That is real needle in haystack territory. One wonder what they think some of them in dinghy are going to find? Unless someone has seen something floating that looks like a body?

ofwarren · 10/02/2023 13:19

confounded234 · 10/02/2023 13:18

That is real needle in haystack territory. One wonder what they think some of them in dinghy are going to find? Unless someone has seen something floating that looks like a body?

Bodies seem to get washed up on the mudflats at shard bridge

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confounded234 · 10/02/2023 13:20

ofwarren · 10/02/2023 13:18

Where does her husband come into this?
At first reports said she found the dog alone but now people are saying she was with her husband?
If she had this urgent appointment, why didn't her husband sort out the dog and phone issue?
Why did they just tie it there with string?

Where is the information that the husband was there as well? I've not come across that.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 10/02/2023 13:20

Goldpaw · 10/02/2023 13:11

I find such cases so scary ,How could someone just disappear with no Trace ,

What I find more bewildering is the number of bodies found where the identity isn't known. There was a man found in the English Channel in 2021 wearing a wetsuit and neoprene gloves and boots. White European but still unidentified today. Bizarre.

Do you have a link, I've Google it but only find wetsuit suppliers.

ofwarren · 10/02/2023 13:21

confounded234 · 10/02/2023 13:20

Where is the information that the husband was there as well? I've not come across that.

Me neither
People keep repeating it on here but here is the first place I've heard of it.

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itsnote · 10/02/2023 13:22

@SueG60 I thought you were ex police? You'd surely know then that suicide is rarely logical and doesn't follow a set pattern?

Every person I know that has committed suicide had made plans and was happy in the days leading up to their death.

One had peeled the vegetables for her tea immediately beforehand and had a nice chat on the phone, another had dropped her kids off with her mum and made plans to meet her best friend at the pub. She went home and took her own life instead. Another had a shower, got ready for work, put their work back in the car, walked back into his house and committed suicide.

If you were ex police you'd know that sometimes people have been so down, so depressed that when they start to feel a bit better they know they can't risk getting that low again. Some survivors of suicide have explained this.

You're the one spreading malicious BS. Why are you saying my loved ones didn't do those things?

dawngreen · 10/02/2023 13:22

I found that confusing I am trying to find the press or police thing that says it

ofwarren · 10/02/2023 13:23

twitter.com/HeartNWNews/status/1624035997343223809?t=0petjuFDj1poNU-qAQ6GFw&s=19

HEART
Search and rescue experts working with Lancs Police are currently searching the River Wyre around 7 miles away from where NicolaBulley was last seen. It's now 2 weeks since the mum of 2 disappeared

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itsnote · 10/02/2023 13:23

"That is real needle in haystack territory. One wonder what they think some of them in dinghy are going to find? Unless someone has seen something floating that looks like a body?"

It's not. It's high tide in a few minutes, that's usually when bodies might wash up at that part of the river.

They know what they are doing and there's good reason that they're there.

itsnote · 10/02/2023 13:24

She wasn't with her husband. They're getting mixed up with the couple who saw and exchanged pleasantries with Nicola on the towpath

Bluebellwood129 · 10/02/2023 13:25

@ofwarren Thank you for your updates. No time to follow today so these are really helpful in keeping up to date. Thoughts are with Nicola's family and friends.

ofwarren · 10/02/2023 13:25

itsnote · 10/02/2023 13:24

She wasn't with her husband. They're getting mixed up with the couple who saw and exchanged pleasantries with Nicola on the towpath

Thank you
That makes more sense

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confounded234 · 10/02/2023 13:26

itsnote · 10/02/2023 13:24

She wasn't with her husband. They're getting mixed up with the couple who saw and exchanged pleasantries with Nicola on the towpath

Thanks for clearing that up.

SirVixofVixHall · 10/02/2023 13:27

confounded234 · 10/02/2023 13:16

Interesting, maybe this is yet another assumption. Phone vaguely in area around bench at 9.20 so police assuming it was on bench at 9.20?

Sorry to hear about your relative.

Thank you, that is a kind thing to say.
In my personal experience the triangulation put the phone in a specific area in a city, but not to an individual large building or part of a building as “at the bench” would suggest. I don’t know about the tech of this, but I was surprised to read that it was quite so specific. My experience is recent, so not with much older technology.

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