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Clinton wins New Hampshire Primary

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morningpaper · 09/01/2008 08:07

Clinton wins Democratic vote in New Hampshire.

Honestly I don't think I can take another 11 months of this sort of stress.

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Oliveoil · 09/01/2008 10:23

Cherie Blair anyone?

moondog · 09/01/2008 10:24

I don't think she interfered in govt. in an official way (althoguh the money making speeches were ill judged)

paulaplumpbottom · 09/01/2008 10:25

With the exception of Clinton and Kennedy nobody else has doen this. Some still think Hillary being allowed to do it was illegal

ahundredtimes · 09/01/2008 10:26

moondog - the states works differently to here. They don't have an elected cabinet as such, the President appoints people who aren't necessarily members of the senate or congress. Is a different system.

Now I thought everyone disliked her SO MUCH because she did so much MORE than do the teas in White House. Didn't she get involved in all that teen pregnancy business, breast cancer, support legistlation for Gulf War Veterans, push for child protection bills etc?

moondog · 09/01/2008 10:27

Oh right, the Bush family don' give each other a leg up then?

TheDuchessOfNorksBride · 09/01/2008 10:27

Blimey, I went to bed having been told that Obama was expecting a "crushing victory" (BBC quote - wtf?) and here we are this morning with Hills.

I think the whole world should get to vote for US President because they are actually, at least for the time being, Emperor of the Universe.

ahundredtimes · 09/01/2008 10:28

It's like a court - they called the Kennedy court Camelot didn't they? It's a different system.

paulaplumpbottom · 09/01/2008 10:30

All First Ladys have their pet projects but thats not why people disliked her. That has never had any bearing on why I disliked her.

aviatrix · 09/01/2008 10:30

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paulaplumpbottom · 09/01/2008 10:31

George Bush didn't appoint any of his family memebers to do anything within his Government.

ahundredtimes · 09/01/2008 10:31

Oh well Paula, I was responding to you saying 'she held teas and planned dinners' and therefore had no experience of power, politics or anything else.

You can't have it both ways.

ahundredtimes · 09/01/2008 10:33

Yes Paula, George Bush IS the paragon of virtue, a shining example of a man above venal corrupt politics and cronyism. That's right.

PersephoneSnape · 09/01/2008 10:34

She is, in my opinion a very intelligent, driven individual, who has taken the opportunities presented to her or made opportunities occur. If she had a penis instead of a womb she would already have been president, so we wouldn?t be having this argument about tea parties and such-like.

policywonk · 09/01/2008 10:37

Agree 100x. Unelected advisers are now v important in the UK as well - eg Campbell being given power over civil servants despite not even being formally in the government.

I think Bill asked H to deal with healthcare because he saw her as being tremendously competent. Twas hardly suprising that she didn't succeed, esp. with a hostile Congress.

Agree that the whiff of nepotism is unpleasant overall though (with Bushes as well as Clintons, not to mention Kennedys). However, I wonder whether it is a consequence of modern media politics - having a recognised name is a huge leg-up in terms of getting media attention.

ahundredtimes · 09/01/2008 10:37

Agree with Pers.

Anywaaay Paula, if memory serves me right you are a republican. Are you pleased with McCain winning? Who is your favourite?

FluffyMummy123 · 09/01/2008 10:37

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ahundredtimes · 09/01/2008 10:40

Nepotism is surely a by-product of the system, of power. It exists the world over and always has.

aviatrix · 09/01/2008 10:40

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FluffyMummy123 · 09/01/2008 10:40

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NadineBaggott · 09/01/2008 10:40

By PalomaPicasso on Wed 09-Jan-08 10:12:04
I like Hillary
She is incredibly passionate about politics, always has been, more than Bill
She has been a v good senator
She is absolutely 100% on top of her facts figures and policies
She understand what the job entails better than anyone else so will hit the ground running, won't waste the first two years flailing around being idealistic like everyone else does
She is an incredibly competant and intelligent woman who would do a great job

But hey, if she is an intelligent, competant, passionate woman, she must be a fucking ball-breaker, mustn't she? And it isn't SEEMLY for a woman to want to do such a big job. Who the hell does she think she is anyway? Give the job to the photogenic bloke with the young family, even if he hasn't got a clue what his policies are or what he is doing.....

couldn't put it any better.

aviatrix · 09/01/2008 10:41

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TheGoatofBitterness · 09/01/2008 10:52

go hilary, go hilary gohilary [stirs arms round in bizarre fashion]. obama seems lovely and charming but just seems to chant change change change while not commiting to improving the horrific health care system adn wanting to keep the mexicans out. hilary seems to have a few actual ideas. not that it matters anyway as it is next to impossible to get anything done with their bizarre system. at least if a democrat gets in they might stop picking fights.

ahundredtimes · 09/01/2008 10:54

[hands the Goat a pom pom]

TheGoatofBitterness · 09/01/2008 10:55

[takes pom pom and flicks blond pony tail]

RoxyMonoxide · 09/01/2008 10:56

The fact that Hillary has made it this far despite being a woman bears testimony to her competence and determination already. As a woman in a very male-dominated industry, I know that you have to go way beyond the standard acceptable for a man in order to be considered even half as good. Paloma has put it so well. She would be a very good president (Hillary, that is )