Clinton wins New Hampshire Primary

[morningpaper]

Clinton wins Democratic vote in New Hampshire.

Honestly I don't think I can take another 11 months of this sort of stress.

I've got a lot of time for hillary - i do hope she gets the nomination - it would be like Lisa Simpson running for president.

Obama just doesn't have the experience - his election to the senate was a bit of a shoe-in after his democrat nominee opponent was accused of wife beating and the republican candidate fathered a 'love-child', i don't think he's ever had to campaign before.

fab comments on the guardian site - example - 'Let's face it: voting for Obama is a great way to get your rocks off twice if you are a middle of the road slightly liberal American. Once because you can cosy up to someone of a slightly different colour which makes you ever so broadminded and twice because you can piss off that hard-nosed dyke Hillary at the same time and her slag of a husband.'

commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/adele_stan/2008/01/woman_on_the_verge.html

you just have to judge who is playing the game for best of intentions

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Ack. You're right, of course. I'm much more interested in the policies than the personalities, it's true, but then, I'm not a Democrat supporter or a US citizen, so it's all a bit moot, really.

sorry, link stank

try again!

yes, man on Sky said woman voters came out in force

I am undecided, I like Obama, but think Clinton looks so CAPABLE and full of authority, so much more than him

(and she looks fab. not that that should matter [airhead])

the Republican candidate - McCann is it, I forget, has a v interesting background if you look into it, prisoner of war etc

Neither am I Sue! I'm just taking an unhealthy interest in it all. I suspect I like the razzmatazz as much as anything. . . .

I lololol @ lisa simpson.

Also these men turned up at one Clinton NH rally holding up placards which said 'Iron My Shirt'.

If she didn't pay them to be there, then she should in future. God, I'd have voted for her because of those placards like a shot.

lisa simpson, classic!

And I think what peeessses me off royally about this 'women voter' thing, is how crappily dumb generic 'woman voter' is presumed to be.

Obama is handsome and charming and young - women will vote for him. Clinton is a woman - women will vote for her. GRR. Yes, of course. Women are just insipid airheads who just vote for whoever wears the prettiest shoes, or will vote for someone just because that person has the same genital set-up as themselves. pah.

I'm firmly with Oliveoil and morningpaper.

I like Obama, but don't think he has the necessary gravitas (mind you, does Dubya???)
Hillary is potentially the best leader and would, I imagine, take no nonsense. She has more political experience and is just a more solid candidate.

Must admit, went to bed after watching NBC nightly news and feeling sure Obama would win NH, was pleasantly surprised to hear the news this morning.

I just don't like Hillary.
She is not a likeable person.

I like Hillary
She is incredibly passionate about politics, always has been, more than Bill
She has been a v good senator
She is absolutely 100% on top of her facts figures and policies
She understand what the job entails better than anyone else so will hit the ground running, won't waste the first two years flailing around being idealistic like everyone else does
She is an incredibly competant and intelligent woman who would do a great job

But hey, if she is an intelligent, competant, passionate woman, she must be a fucking ball-breaker, mustn't she? And it isn't SEEMLY for a woman to want to do such a big job. Who the hell does she think she is anyway? Give the job to the photogenic bloke with the young family, even if he hasn't got a clue what his policies are or what he is doing.....

[nods] Agree with PP

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Exactly how is she more experianced? She has no governing experiance. None. She was a senator only a little longer than Obama. Like her if you must but not for her experiance. She has none

Oh for gods sake paula, do you think that when she was living in the white house for two terms she was permanently filing her nails?

Let's be SLIGHTLY realistic here.

Well she's got a little bit Paula, hasn't she? Experience of the corridors of power at least.

re. sophable's post of 9.52 - that has occurred to me too, it's a shocking thought though.

I was glad to see Hillary win on balance. Agree she isn't particularly likeable, but that's not (or shouldn't be) very relevant, is it?

sophable
i thought that about obama too, if he gets any further

dont like hillary clinton and dont want her to win either
lisa simpson would be good as the president, i dont see the comparison
i thought her talks / presenetations in iowa had the ring of a boring ol school marm acterually

didn't she try and bring in some medical reforms when Bill C first got into power and all the voters said "who does she think she is" and advisers told her she needed to bake cookies instead?

For starters, she was in charge of the entire healthcare policy in the first term. OK, she crashed and burnt, but isn't that the best possible experience? That got rid of the idealism that any other candidate will necessarily still have.

Fact.

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it came to me in a moment of breakfast madness

With the exeption of her health car disaster she did the job of any other First Lady. She held Teas and planned dinners. It is well known that she wasn't allowed in any security meetings and was very rarely allowed in policy meetings. So she probably has the edge that she knows where the Lincoln Bedroom is.

lol paula! lincoln bedroom

i didnt think she was cleared for security either...
she reminds me of my usa sil
no no no no no..............

She shouldn't have been put in charge of health care reform ffs! She wasn't elected! He was! How would we feel if Sarah Brown took it upon herself to get to grips with Afghanistan.

It irritates me beyond belief,the wat that Americans bleat on about democracy yet happily bring in spouses and other family members to do stuff.