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Baby denied treatment, my heart just broke 💔

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ReelTears · 01/04/2022 17:21

I struggled to get to the end of this article. We're hearing so much about the plight of the poor Ukrainians at the moment, there are peoples who are also struggling just to physically access basic necessities. I can't imagine watching my baby die because the people enforcing apartheid (as stated by the United Nations) won't give me permission to travel to a hospital where she could be treated. I am heartbroken for this poor little girl and her parents, why aren't we protesting at her treatment, and the similar incidents mentioned here?

www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/01/palestinian-baby-dies-after-treatment-delayed-by-israeli-blockade-of-gaza

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Thesefeetaremadeforwalking · 06/04/2022 02:56

@briefly
"The applications are made because there is no other way for this people group to access this medical care."

If the ruling body in Gaza diverting funds away from making weapons to attack Israel, then they could provide a medical service for their own people.

"I'm quite saddened that you would resist the concept of a humanitarian corridor, "

^I don't.
But such a corridor can be used for nefarious purposes for those who seek the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has a right to protect it's citizens.
Those who shout about the 'collateral damage' suffered by Palestinian children forget that the ruling body of Gaza (which is for all intents and purposes a terrorist organisation) is bankrolled by Iran which is conducting a proxy war against Israel via Gaza.

The conflict involves threats and hostility by Iran's leaders against Israel, and their declared objective to dissolve the Jewish state. Iran has provided funding, weapons, and training to groups (including Lebanese Hezbollah, Hamas, and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) which have vowed and carried out attacks on Israel, and which have been designated terrorist organisations by many countries.^

^Gaza doesn't care about it's citizens and doesn't want peace.
The most recent peace plan, prepared by the United States when Donald Trump was president, was called "the deal of the century" by Israel's then-Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. But it was been dismissed by the Palestinians as one-sided and never got off the ground^

This is a complex situation that, sadly, isn't going to be resolved anytime soon.

Briefly · 06/04/2022 14:12

I don't know where you have copied and pasted those quotations from.

You haven't responded to my points and I can see that you won't.

Perhaps get out of your echo chamber now and again.

Thesefeetaremadeforwalking · 06/04/2022 18:02

@Briefly,

Oh dear.

The 'cut & paste' are from your own post Confused

I'll leave you to your pity-fest.

Briefly · 06/04/2022 21:09

Oh, I see now. You've put strange marks around your own words that I thought were quotation marks. Yes I'm aware that I talked about the need for children to access care they are already in theory receiving. Perhaps you should spare a thought for just how differently this would have turned out for this innocent child if she had been living a short distance away. How the doctor in Israel probably feels about his patient dying for want of a permit that could have been issued. And learn to extend some pity. If you can't, I'm afraid your lack of simple humanity speaks louder than any political point.

Chiefofstaff · 22/04/2022 23:06

Not all Jews agree with how Israel have handled the conflict. I am part Jewish, and to me anti semiticism is not the same thing as being critical of how Israel has handled things with Palestine.

I am an Orthodox Jew and don’t agree with the Israeli governments occupation of Palestine. For this view I am unpopular and am seen as anti-Zionist. Which I’m not. There will never be peace as both have rights to the same tracts of land. For thousands of years both lived together pretty harmoniously and until both sides agree to a two state solution (which neither will ever do) there will be no end to dreadful and totally unnecessary waste of lives such as little Fatima’s. The area was carved up in an inflammatory and ridiculous way, with both sides promised rights to the same areas. The result is carnage. When I’m in Israel I look around and see I look like my Palestinian sisters and they look like me. The men look like the men in my family. Essentially we are the same people and there is far more that makes us alike then makes us different. There are initiatives in schools, in sports, in the arts to try bring harmony between Israelis and Palestinians, but while there is a lot of good will and hope for better, thanks to both Governments, these are just nice ideas but will result in very little of substance. It upsets and depresses me greatly that Fatima's death was absolutely unnecessary, that her family will rightly loathe Israelis forever as a result and that while nothing changes long-lasting peace isn’t even vaguely likely.

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