Is GB News the beginnings of a new political movement?

[Dancerinthedark01]

I don't really know what GB News is.

I take glances at the clips that appear on Twitter every now and again. The thing I find curious is that people rubbish it on here. But Neil Oliver is one of the main presenters isn't he?

I really like him. He's seemed, in the past, when I've watched his history programmes to be a very astute character.

I'm wondering ... GB News ... could it be the beginnings of an outspoken outlet that we need ... and the beginnings of a new political party perhaps?

Ooh I've heard of Farage. I've seen that Michelle Dewberry off of the apprentice on it too. And Arlene Foster's on it.

It's still pants. And that is why GBNews is an honourable failure rather than the beginnings of a new political movement.

@entropynow

No. It's the mouthpiece of an old one. Right-wing, populist, ignorant nationalism. We need it like several holes in the head.

SO disappointed in Neil Oliver. He should've stuck to history and TV presenting.

He’s not even a historian.

Never watched it. My TV watching is increasing again slowly from a low base but watching unbearable talking heads opining at each other is my least favourite way to spend time. Especially if one of them is fucking Farage.

Can I thoroughly recommend the documentary Four Hours In The Capitol on iplayer to describe what kind of ridiculous but also dangerous shite these media driven hysteria-generating 'movements' lead to?

Is it 40 per cent sport coverage?
Does it have a "dont be happy look at this poor person... " feature daily?
Is it a chat show not a newsshow?
Do the presenters squeal with delight when talking about drink?
Does it challenge left and right voices?
Does it report without ANY bias or propaganda?

You know Andrew Neil was suspended from it for taking the knee?

This is the opposite of unbiased and independent.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.indy100.com/independent/news/gb-news-andrew-neil-knee-b1885806%3famp

This post is hilarious 😂😂

Nigel? Nigel is that you?

@EishetChayil

"Outspoken" invariably means "alt right gobshite" in my experience.

+1

It can also mean "against the consensus"
If you're happy with the consensus great, you can stick to the BBC and the Guardian.
If you're not, there's a wide spectrum of alternative thought out there.

This tribal rush to label anything to don't agree with as some flavour of evil is really really dangerous to society.

They all have their strengths and weaknesses and biases.

But not all news sources are the same. People attack the BBC, Reuters, the FT and Channel 4 (often for valid reasons) but they go out of their way to be accurate on the facts.

The Mail, ITV, telegraph and Times don't make stuff up but at times their bias causes significant misrepresentation or they just don't fact check as carefully.

Sources like GB news, the Sun, the People, the Express and the Guardian just don't give a shit and are often bordering on lying to get attention or fit their agenda.

If you read the Star, pink news, the Canary or breitbart you are just reading fiction which is sometimes loosely based on real events.

@1Week

It can also mean "against the consensus" If you're happy with the consensus great, you can stick to the BBC and the Guardian. If you're not, there's a wide spectrum of alternative thought out there.

This tribal rush to label anything to don't agree with as some flavour of evil is really really dangerous to society.

What is the "consensus" then?

It's always right-wingers or alt-rights who say they're being "against the consensus", against the "elite" etc when really they ARE the consensus. And the elite. The Tories are in charge - THAT is the consensus! What groups like GB News say is so disengenous, trying to pretend they're alternative, when what they really want is to protect the traditional status quo. People fall for it thinking they're being "alternative".

The BBC and the Guardian are not the same thing. The G is stated as being on the left but the BBC is more on the right, it's supposed to be impartial but its support of Brexit on shows like QT and other news progs is obvious.

This tribal rush to label anything to don't agree with as some flavour of evil is really really dangerous to society

You could say the same in reverse. Look at the way climate protesters are treated in the media, they are the true alternatives to the status quo, yet they are talked about as if they are dangerous to society. Because the right-wing media want to keep things as they are. Look at how Corbyn was treated. It's like we're not allowed to have a decent opposition any more, the Tories and the RW in general dominate EVERYTHING. We need a TRUE OPPOSITION, not even MORE RW bullshit!

tldr = GB news is not against the consensus, it's more of the same sh!t that we have already.

You think things are too right wing, others think things are too left.

Nobody is bad here, they just have different ideas on how to achieve a better society. There are good analyses and insights from all across the political spectrum.

Understanding that others have just as much right to their opinions as you do, and they're not evil/gammon/lefty loonies for disagreeing with you is the basis of liberalism, of pluralism, of democracy.

When did being right wing become a criminal offence?

OP you can bet all the posters slamming you haven’t watched the channel either.

I’ve watched the Andrew Doyle show. That is actually brilliant and far superior to similar long form interviews say the BBC does. In fact I can’t think of any long form type discussion show on the BBC?
It’s missing a trick not doing this imo.

And I think it’s a good thing it exists. It creates balance overall in the media landscape. People can watch it or not.

@TinaYouFatLard

When did being right wing become a criminal offence?

OP you can bet all the posters slamming you haven’t watched the channel either.

I can see they haven’t. The most insightful comments here are from people who clearly have.

I think it sounds interesting. There’s probably plenty of rubbish to sift through. But also a fair bit of decent stuff.

I will have a proper watch now.

@donquixotedelamancha

They all have their strengths and weaknesses and biases.

But not all news sources are the same. People attack the BBC, Reuters, the FT and Channel 4 (often for valid reasons) but they go out of their way to be accurate on the facts.

The Mail, ITV, telegraph and Times don't make stuff up but at times their bias causes significant misrepresentation or they just don't fact check as carefully.

Sources like GB news, the Sun, the People, the Express and the Guardian just don't give a shit and are often bordering on lying to get attention or fit their agenda.

If you read the Star, pink news, the Canary or breitbart you are just reading fiction which is sometimes loosely based on real events.

Isn’t the order of these news sources in the hierarchy you’ve created- just your opinion?

I agree with some of it but not all. You’ve made it sound like it’s fact.

Weird that you post this when Neil Oliver is trending on twitter because of an antivax speech. "Big pharma and big media"

twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1451976915225559050

Big pharma and big media demonstrably exist.

It used to be the left wing who gave a shit about over powerful corporations, especially when in lockstep with the government.

(I'm probably, I feel it needs to be said)
That actually is fascism, when taken to the extreme.

Sorry typos AND formatting fail.

Try again:
At the end it should say, "I'm provax, if it needs to be said"

I saw some shoddy journalism from GB News, that unimpresses me.
The guy who stabbed MP recently, AHA.

GB News reported at length that AHA was a Somali national -- first outlet to do so. It's all they had & they harped on about it.

Other outlets waited to report on nationality... dunno if AHA is Somali national after all, but he is British national, grew up in Croydon, other outlets said.

What was the important information here? British guy who grew up in Croydon of Somali heritage, or he had a Somali passport?

I know what the important information was to me in understanding his context & background foreign passport of a country he didn't grow up in that wasn't very important info about his background.

@Dancerinthedark01

Is it right wing?

I’ll watch it for a bit. I assumed it was ok because Neil Oliver presents it.

Have a watch

They have had some of my most hated people on there

But like all things, there's a balance

Some people have been a lot different than I thought

[quote SheWoreYellow]You know Andrew Neil was suspended from it for taking the knee?

This is the opposite of unbiased and independent.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.indy100.com/independent/news/gb-news-andrew-neil-knee-b1885806%3famp[/quote]
Andrew Neil didnt take the knee

Its not something i watch and i really doubt its the start of a new political movement but if you want to give it a go dancer then you should, its good to get information from different sources

Isn’t the order of these news sources in the hierarchy you’ve created- just your opinion?

Yes, obviously.

I agree with some of it but not all. You’ve made it sound like it’s fact.

It's not fact in the sense that (for example) 'the capital of the UK is London' is a fact. I think most people who are familiar with all those sources and able to exercise good judgement would put them in a similarish order. People will have personal priorities: for example I prefer channel 4 to ITV because I think greater factual detail on issues is valuable, even when accompanied by bias.

But if (for example) someone thinks GB news or the Guardian is a credible main source and the BBC is left/right propaganda then I would suggest that person lacks the skills to effectively assess sources of info.

They have had some of my most hated people on there. But like all things, there's a balance. Some people have been a lot different than I thought

I think GB news' great selling point is that; trying to allow room for lots of viewpoints and debate. Personally I don't think they do it well yet. LBC does a really good job of the same thing.