Tour de France Crash

[Chicoryhickory]

I'm really feeling for that woman who held up the sign and caused the crash. I know she was too close but it was an accident and now they're threatening jail. I bet she's scared to death..

If someone was pole vaulting and s spectator ran in front making them lose concentration and fall from a height breaking their arms. Ok?

This woman was not responsible for anyone breaking their arms. It could have easily been, but luckily she wasnt.

She cause ONE serious injury to ONE rider who suffered haematoma to wrists.

I think shes an idiot but I do feel sorry for her because no one seems to realise there were TWO crashes and they think she's responsible for all the serious injuries caused in the second crash.

But that is me for the night.

Heres a full list of the injuries split into crash 1 & 2 if anyone wants to see...
cyclingtips.com/2021/06/21-riders-were-injured-on-stage-1-of-the-tour-de-france/

And no I am not the gran lol She deserves lambasting but half of the anger is misdirected due to poor reporting

'This woman was not responsible for anyone breaking their arms. It could have easily been, but luckily she wasnt.

She cause ONE serious injury to ONE rider who suffered haematoma to wrists.'

Oh well then it's fine.

Have you ever been knocked off a bike while going at a fast pace? You seriously believe no one else was hurt in any way?

And she did cause that massive crash. Obviously.

Unless you are putting the blame on the rider she caused to crash?!

I have no sympathy at all for her, and when the incident was replayed, she was standing by the side of the road watching the events after the incident she had caused, unfold - I’m amazed she wasn’t pointed out and picked up there and then.

She’s a criminal and has made it worse by running off. She could have killed people and I hope they throw the book at her when they undoubtedly find her

as well as being a selfish idiot, she would be guilty of assault in the uk. ..as the consequences are foreseeable to any reasonable person. I am sure france will have a similar law. I hope she is prosecuted.

Its not fine and I have said that. That was my third post and I think if you read them all its quite clear my view.

Have you ever been knocked off a bike while going at a fast pace? You seriously believe no one else was hurt in any way?
Yes I am sure many were injured. Imagine going from that speed with all your muscles tenses to smacking into the ground. Horrific. But my point is everyone is confusing the two crashes and going on a witch hunt.

Unless you are putting the blame on the rider she caused to crash?!
She obviously caused that crash but she didn't cause the second one which could have easily killed two kids; and which did break some poor chaps arms, collapsed some ones lung and knocked someone unconscious. So I blame the organisers for shitty crowd control and lax safety here, and if you read my posts I think thats quite clear.

Theres not much more I can say about this.

No one is confusing the two crashes.

She caused the first one. The one with fewer injuries. The French police are interested in charging her with a crime - "deliberately violating safety regulations and causing injuries that might prevent someone working for up to three months".
Maximum penalty is a year in prison.

The second incident (the one with the significant injuries) was caused within the peleton. Crashes like that happen more often than you'd think. Bike racing is a dangerous sport.

Have you ever watched any bike racing before?
The cause of the second accident was nothing to do with "shitty crowd control and lax safety" so God only knows what you're looking to blame the organisers for.

I've also no idea why you keep repeating that the crash could have killed two kids. It didn't. It didn't touch them.

I don't know or care enough about cycling to know this answer, but why weren't there barriers and/or marshals, at least at the busiest sections? Letting spectators get that close to the action is asking for trouble.

I'm not particularly sympathetic towards this woman - my thoughts are with the poor cyclists who were injured. Given how long they would have trained for this, it must be personally quite devastating.

Any sympathy I might have had for her disappeared when she fled the scene of the crash.

Fucking terrible thing to do. Says a lot about her as a person.

@itsaccrualworld - there are barriers at the busiest sections.

The second crash was on a descent, 8km from the end of a 200km stage with the group travelling at full gas. It was horrible.

What she did was reckless and stupid.

I don't think it was malicious or intentional.

Rather it smacks of someone being extremely naive about the speed of the Peloton, the dangers of not keeping a safe distance from the course and being transfixed on getting your face/sign on TV.

As pp's have said it was not the crash that resulted in the most serious injuries, but that's small consolation to the riders who suffered unnecessary injuries that could/will impact their performance during the remaining stages.

It was also a crash that had the potential to cause very serious injuries.

I'm not in favour of a public witch hunt against this woman but at the same time it's not appropriate to say that reckless/stupid actions that put other people's lives in danger and cause injury should be without consequence.

I personally think what she did was shocking and I’m not legally trained so I can’t say if it is classed as a criminal offence but in my opinion her actions have caused “injury, and distress” to many competitors which is totally unacceptable.

@Oliver899

There was a second one where two tiny children nearly got hammered by a series of flying bikes on what should have been a relatively safe portion of the track (a straight line).

Good grief.

What are the organisers thinking?

No - what what were the children's parents thinking?

This is a major sporting event - not a playground for kids.

@itsaccrualworld

I don't know or care enough about cycling to know this answer, but why weren't there barriers and/or marshals, at least at the busiest sections? Letting spectators get that close to the action is asking for trouble.

I'm not particularly sympathetic towards this woman - my thoughts are with the poor cyclists who were injured. Given how long they would have trained for this, it must be personally quite devastating.

The Tour de France is over 2000 miles long.

It's impossible to police all of it.
People need to take individual responsibility for their safety.

Any child over 8ish would / should be able to asses the risk of what she did. She should be punished she's an adult. Unless she does have a disability she should be able to asses the danger there and know the consequences. Anyone strood there with a child would instinctively pull them back away from the bikers because it's instinct. And if she gets away with being an innocent mistake what disaster would she cause in the future.

Well, there is a huge difference between an accident and someone being a twat.

I hope they keep her identity secret. She deserves to be held to account for what she did but not to be publicly condemned. She may also be vulnerable in some way given that her actions demonstrated such a catastrophic lack of judgement.

She was very stupid, BUT I also feel like there should be clearer barriers to stop any kind of intrusion (accidental or otherwise) onto the track.

Looking at the pictures, a similar pileup could have been caused if someone had (say) accidentally tripped or fainted and fallen in front of the bikes.

Here's a list of injuries.

@Oliver899

There was a second one where two tiny children nearly got hammered by a series of flying bikes on what should have been a relatively safe portion of the track (a straight line).

Good grief.

What are the organisers thinking?

What were the parents thinking? It’s akin to letting kids play on a train track.

@L0bstersLass

No one is confusing the two crashes.

She caused the first one. The one with fewer injuries. The French police are interested in charging her with a crime - "deliberately violating safety regulations and causing injuries that might prevent someone working for up to three months".
Maximum penalty is a year in prison.

The second incident (the one with the significant injuries) was caused within the peleton. Crashes like that happen more often than you'd think. Bike racing is a dangerous sport.

Have you ever watched any bike racing before?
The cause of the second accident was nothing to do with "shitty crowd control and lax safety" so God only knows what you're looking to blame the organisers for.

I've also no idea why you keep repeating that the crash could have killed two kids. It didn't. It didn't touch them.

Quite a lot of people are confusing the two - seeing sees been blamed for injuries caused in the other crash (see just above for example of this).

She was wrong and should be held accountable just as others who have done similar (usually so they can take a picture) and really the level of anger should been at the same level.as those incidents too.

@Oliver899

There was a second one where two tiny children nearly got hammered by a series of flying bikes on what should have been a relatively safe portion of the track (a straight line).

Good grief.

What are the organisers thinking?

Oh, so its the organisers fault that parents allowed their children on to the track?

If the route is so unguarded and haphazard though, surely this is just one of the risks of taking part? People will always be idiots.

I’ve seen the tour go past twice and I can’t believe anyone could be so stupid.

The caravan that comes through first makes it really clear that you need to be out of the road (great big speakers / flashing lights / lots of signs) and it comes past so fast.

She didn’t mean to hurt anyone but she was clearly reckless, especially stepping out with her back to them.

Good. I hope she is scared to death. She's a fucking idiot.