Ulrika Jonsson Pg again

[AnAngelWithin]

that was quick!! oh well good luck to her.

I'm really of the opposite view. She gives the impression of being v. strong and of really caring about her children. Her columns are often v. mumnetty in their opinions btw

IIRC, the father of her daughter Bo, left her when her daughter was just days old and needed heart surgery, and hasn't seen her - nice
now, i think that sort of behaviour deserves condemnation

Mrs Archie - It may well be personal to you, doesn't make your conclusion that she is a 'grubby little slut' any more palatable.

I am sure I would think she was an arse in RL

however, I would not start a mean thread on here about her 'morals'

is it 2007 or 1954?

horrible horrible things to say about anybody.

so you think that her response when the whole john leslie situation was unfolding was ok? that she was right in keeping quiet and not ending speculation?

ScaremyVile - we're just going to have to agree to disagree on that one there. Sorry.

she could not have ended speculation without prejudicing any trial that might have taken place.

Be realistic how could she have named someone in a book without being sued for libel.

but she could have bought charges against him, if he was her attacker. which would perhaps have given other victims hope. instead she allowed a witch hunt to take place. if he did attack her then he deserves everything he gets, but if not then an innocent mans life has been ruined.

and when he was named, there were no charges bought, that happened months later

DullWitch - "Her behaviour offends my moral code. It is selfish, dissolute, attention-seeking and pathetic." - good post. Not quite the same as "what a skank".

ceebeegeebies - I couldn't give a toss if she's famous or not. If she was an 18 yo living on a council estate, with 4 children by 4 fathers, I still wouldn't think it was OK to call her these names.

I dont really care how she handled it - not knowing her or, therefore, the whole story.

What does interest me is why that situation would lead someone to the conclusion that she was a 'grubby little slut'.

Slut isn't a word you would use to describe someone touting a book, or someone whos way of dealing with a situation you didn't agree with. It's a word to insinuate a lack of sexual morals.

So for that to be used in the context of her claiming to be raped - I find pretty distasteful (to put it mildly).

okay but we know that people fail to bring charges for lots of reasons. If something like that happened to me and the cps had decided not to take on the case i might very well want to exorcise some demons by writing about it.

don't think even KK has been called a skank ...
UJ does not parade her kids though at least...

I don't find UJ repulsive/repugnant or offensive... She seems reasonably together had and body wise even if her choice of me is... curious at times

It was the way it was all so public. I remember her giving an interview about her book on Jonathan Ross shortly before John Leslie was named and Rossy said something to the tune of 'we can't say who it is for legal reasons but there are a lot of people in media circles who know who this man is, and he needs to be stopped' Too right, but that task lies with the police, and if he was/is as big a monster as the media made him out to be then he should have been charged, tried before a jury and locked up if found guilty. If he'd done it several times before then it would have only taken one brave woman to stand up and say 'he did this to me' to the police before other women came forward to report what he did to them. Granted, the number of successful rape prosecutions is so low it is a great deterrent in women actually making an allegation of rape to the police, but the point I'm trying to make is that Leslie's name would still have made it into the media spotlight if Jonsson had gone to the police with her allegation, instead of which she chose to pursue it in a book and on the media circuit, which is why I think that whole episode is sordid and why she did little to encourage women who have been raped and sexually assaulted to come forward.

i didnt do that though.
i feel very sorry for her. rape is a vicious crime and i dont think that she is a slut because she was raped. quite the opposite, i think it explains some of her behaviour since.

i object to the "OK" culture that we live in, whereby its ok for someone behave as they want as long as they are famous and we can read all about it

to quote dullwitch, it offends my moral code

Oh yes cos it is that simple
I ould write my biography and about my fist rape, it would easily identify who it was because of my life at the time.

I would consider it payback tbh

Oh Lapin you are so patronising! When I say "skank" I am a terrible person. When I use longer words to say precisely the same thing it is OK.

Ulrika is the worst kind of celebrity. When she was young her career was based entirely on her looks. Now her looks are gone it is entirely upon selling stories about herself, parading her past - shooting out allegations without the courage to follow them through ? parading her latest one-night stand baby before the celeb mags. And we are all supposed to go, oh lovely Ulrika, gawd bless her, let s not judge, good luck to her.

Well, no. I hate the idea of 20-something women seeing her terrible, selfish choices as an acceptable, highly-rewarded way to live.

on account of it being so dead easy to report someone for rape and get a conviction

"i object to the "OK" culture that we live in, whereby its ok for someone behave as they want as long as they are famous and we can read all about it"

I would agree with that, but I just dont see how UJ falls into this category.

Dullwitch - what 'terrible, selfish' choices are you on about?

Oh that is bollocks, I was not being patronising and it was nothing to do with the number of syllables. Your latter post intelligently explained your objections to her. The first one was just offensive and unpleasant.

"her looks have gone"

wtf??????

Selfish in haphazardly creating another child with a bloke she's only just met, in an already chaotic household, not caring that another baby-father might affect the stability of her existing family. Selfish in parading everything in the mags and tabs, despite having an older son who is now, I guess, around 12 and might read it.

I cycled past her as she was jogging (REALLY slowly - I wondered why she was bothering! ) 2 or 3 months ago. She was a really strange colour.

I don't give a monkey's fart what she does but I don't think she's a good role model. Fair enough, she may have been unlucky in love, but she already has 3 lovely children by 3 different men - did she really need a 4th? And I'm with TheDullWitch - it offends my moral code too.