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Plans to protect children from peadolphiles........dvd for 6yrs and above, what do we all think?

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haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 09:29

In the news today, the government have released plans to protect children from predators/peadophiles. Within their plans, they have detailed a behavioural analysis unit to try to determine how a peadophile thinks (too little too late imo, surley this type of work has been carried out everytime a peadophile is caught?).
Also they are planning to release a cartoon dvd which is aimed at the children to show them how to spot a child predator. Im all for this and will be definitely letting my dc watch it. Although it is disturbing at times apparently. Its such a shame that we have to show our dc the dangers in the world in order to protect them.
What do the rest of you think?

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Enid · 30/10/2007 11:19

I warn mine about eating Arum lilies

and not touching electric fences and bulls

haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 11:19

sorry should read, "isnt that detailed"

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oliveoil · 30/10/2007 11:20

atm I warn them about pronouncing door as "dowarrrrr"

does Gorden do a video on accents?

RubyShivers · 30/10/2007 11:20

haychee - you said in your OP that its content is "disturbing" - so not just a simple cartoon

mamazombie · 30/10/2007 11:22

so you have seen the DVD hayche?

will this film be made by those who actually have an understanding of peadophilia? or children? or by some media savvy publishing firm who will just want to cash tehir cheque as quickly as possible

madamez · 30/10/2007 11:24

Haychee: there's an easy way to avoid the possible danger of 'mummy says' strangers: give your kids a password and if you do have to send someone else to collect them from school or whatever, tell that person the password and explain to your kids that they can only go with someone who uses the right password.

Enid · 30/10/2007 11:24

she hasnt seen it

its not even in the news

it probably doesnt exist

like all the prowling pederfiles

oliveoil · 30/10/2007 11:24

it was on Sky though, font of all facts

haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 11:24

There are a few clips of it ive seen. My link to it is on this thread if you want to see it.

I have said i would proof watch it through before dc saw it.

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haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 11:26

By Enid on Tue 30-Oct-07 11:24:24
she hasnt seen it

its not even in the news

it probably doesnt exist

like all the prowling pederfiles

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SueBarooooItslikeaWarzone · 30/10/2007 11:26

I'm not going to tell my children about paedophiles, right now, Haychee. It's quite adequate to talk to them about appropriate touching and personal privacy.

I've just watched some of the cartoon, and I think thy'd learn more from watching South Park, which at least has wit. It's painful. I'd much rather have a conversation with my children, ta muchly.

haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 11:27

I like that madamez

Thankyou, constructive comment greatly appreciated.

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mamazombie · 30/10/2007 11:28

well if it ever comes into circulation you are of course welcome to show it to your children.

but if society continues like this i feel for any single father who dares take his child to teh park.

madamez · 30/10/2007 11:30

Trying to make children scared of everyone who 'approaches' them is a bad plan, as well. Someone who approaches (ie speaks to) a child may simply want to ask the time, or for directions, or genuinely to know if you've seen their dog which has run away. Or the person may have mild SN and be a bit odd but harmless. Or (as was in another thread) be a proselytising pillock who wants to peddle superstition to the kids and give them rosaries - annoying, but still not a pedafell. By all means have a chat with DCs who are old enough to play outside, along the lines of not going away with anyone they don't know, and how their bodies are their own etc, but making them terrified of everything outside their own immediate world is disastrous. There are too many paranoid, bigoted morons out there as it is.

haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 11:31

Its not society that brings this all about its the offenders. Great numbers of them, always in the news for having abused children for many many years unoticed.

Sue, south park is more informative? Ive had my conversations with my dd. I dont think it was considered much by her. I want to make sure she knows what to do, and what is right to expect or not re touches etc. The dvd will back me up.

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haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 11:34

making them terrified of everything outside their own immediate world

My dd will not be terrified. She needs to be made aware. I know her character.

I will choose to let her watch it (after ive seen it first), end of.

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SueBarooooItslikeaWarzone · 30/10/2007 11:34

South Park has more wit. The animation reminded me of South Park is all. But South Park was less interminably dull and plodding.

Enid · 30/10/2007 11:35

I'd let her at em haychee

she is so fearless she'll probably whack em round the head with her book bag

wannaBe · 30/10/2007 11:35

why do we need a dvd?

When I was about 7/8 we had a policeman come into school to talk to us about being safe and to never go off with strangers. It wasn't scary, it was just a policeman coming to talk to us, we all thought it was cool and most were far more interested in whether he'd bought his handcuffs/trunchen/whether he had a police dog in the back of his car , but we did all remember the talk so he obviously did his job well.

I honestly don't ever remember being talked to about inappropriate behavior from adults, but I know that I knew it was wrong, and if anyone had ever touched me I would have told them to piss off in no uncertain terms.

I believe that children should be aware that not everyone in the world is nice and that if ever anyone does something you're not comfortable with it's ok to tell them no and to then tell mummy/daddy. But I do not believe that we should be giving children this idea that there is a paedophile lurking around every corner just waiting to pounce because that is simply not true.

Also this notion of girls "being approached by a stranger" might well have been blown out of all proportion. Maybe he wanted directions, maybe he thought they looked young to be out alone and wanted to check they were ok, but if they've been scared into thinking that strangers are dangerous then maybe they think they were at risk, unnecessarily, and now some poor innocent person might have been needlessly branded a predator.

Paedophilia hasn't increased since we were children, but tabloid newspapers have, which is why people have been scared into this belief that our children are all at risk - they're not.

Enid · 30/10/2007 11:36

it is a bit sad that you go on about it to her (eg youve had teh convos and wittered on about Madeliene mccann endlessly but now need a dvd to back you up)

I'd be more worried about feeling that she doesnt take you seriously (I wonder why )

mamazombie · 30/10/2007 11:38

Its not society that brings this all about its the offenders. Great numbers of them, always in the news for having abused children for many many years unoticed.

and there we see the Daily mail at work.

has it occured to you that something is only newsworthy iof it is a notable event/occurance.

if these serial sex offenders happened in every road in every town then the conviction of one would not make the headlines.
your above statement speaks volumes to me, im sorry but you are yet another media sheep

oliveoil · 30/10/2007 11:39

my children know not to go out of my sight when we go shopping as "we are very precious dd2 and need to wait here" (dd1 to dd2 at the end of the checkout in Tescos)

so they don't run off

when they are older I will explain not to go off with anybody they do not know

I will not say "do not talk to strangers" as I feel that is rude to the 99.99% who are nice

haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 11:40

We are all here to help eachother out, to advise and support, yes?

If there is any other way i can get through to my daughter then please tell me.

This thread is good because it alone has raised awareness. It has allowed us to discuss how to tackle, inform our dc about appropriate touches etc.

I have to go to work now, but will catch up on thread later tonight.

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SueBarooooItslikeaWarzone · 30/10/2007 11:40

Children really should be allowed to think that 'grooming' is what you do to pretty horses, for a while at least, don't you think?

Enid · 30/10/2007 11:41

I bet the locals would wish I would tell my dds not to talk to strangers

we live in a village and constantly get dog walkers/walkers wandering down our lane

cue dd1 and dd2 and recently dd3 hanging over fence waving and saying hallo manically until they get a response

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