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Plans to protect children from peadolphiles........dvd for 6yrs and above, what do we all think?

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haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 09:29

In the news today, the government have released plans to protect children from predators/peadophiles. Within their plans, they have detailed a behavioural analysis unit to try to determine how a peadophile thinks (too little too late imo, surley this type of work has been carried out everytime a peadophile is caught?).
Also they are planning to release a cartoon dvd which is aimed at the children to show them how to spot a child predator. Im all for this and will be definitely letting my dc watch it. Although it is disturbing at times apparently. Its such a shame that we have to show our dc the dangers in the world in order to protect them.
What do the rest of you think?

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MrsArchieTheScaryInventor · 30/10/2007 10:46

Also they are planning to release a cartoon dvd which is aimed at the children to show them how to spot a child predator.

How handy that child predators come in an easy to spot guise, complete with dirty mac and jam jar bottomed 1970s glasses. Wow, the money spend on this piece of research is really being put to good use!

mamazombie · 30/10/2007 10:46

So they are to make a video that, if it warns of the dangers of predatory peadophiles, will teach children to be terrified of spending time alone with anyone from their father to the teacher to the youth worker to the wierd guy who lives on the corner?

children don't need warning about peadophiles.

90% of all child abuse is perpetrated by someone teh child knows and trusts.
this is yet more media fueled hysteria which has absolutly no use other than to terrify young mothers who are ignorant of real fact

haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 10:49

Just saying, "dont go with strangers" isnt enough imo.
My dd, wants to know why.

Also if said predator is known, how can they be expected to know how to react if they are unaware of any danger.

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haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 10:51

I think all of you who are against it have no experience of the topic. i.e, you dont know anyone who has been abused.

I know 2, and i certainly dont want my dd to turn out like them. Both severly affected by their ordeal as a child.

I also have the worry that there is someone in my town who has approached young girls (8yrs old i think they were). Who says he wont do it again and be more successful next time?

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mamazombie · 30/10/2007 10:52

teaching your child the difference between appropriate touching or to ensure they know that no matter what happens you will always believe them is one thing. terrifying them of anyone male is another

haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 10:54

Ah, but thats the point. I know for a fact my dd will not be terrified. I will also proof watch it first of course.

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SueBarooooItslikeaWarzone · 30/10/2007 10:55

Ah, yes, Haychee, those who don't want to petrify their children with the details of things that make adults feel ill are completely oblivious to the reality of abuse, right? What a ridiculous thing to say.

Maybe we think there are better ways of dealing and preparing our children than sticking them in front of a horror movie?

mamazombie · 30/10/2007 10:59

hayche - errm maybe you should search my name. you will find that as a social worker who spent 6 months working at a treatment centre for peadophiles i probably know a darn site more than you actually.

I have also dealt with countless victims, both in a professional capacity and family friend.

how dare you consider anyone that does not share your view must be oblivious.

the fact tyhat i have such insight means i do not need to be such a sheep and follow media hsyteria and scaremongering.

haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 11:00

I dont think its made out like a horror movie sue. Its a cartoon, its simplistic but direct at times. I know my childs character, i know she wont be petrified by it. It will back me up, my warnings already been told.

It just suprises me how many are far more willing to stick their heads in the sand than to be open and honest about these types of dangers.

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SueBarooooItslikeaWarzone · 30/10/2007 11:02

Haychee, yes, but your way of dealing with these things is not the only way to be open and honest, and everyone who does things differently is not 'sticking their head in the sand'.

mamazombie · 30/10/2007 11:03

i find your opinion that anyone who isn't of the daily mail/ news of the world stream of thinking must have their head in the sand quite offensive actually.

haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 11:03

ok, apologies mamazombie.
It was just comming across that thise who had no experience liked to think it wont happen to them or their dc.
I think its all about knowing your own child. I know mine is a fearless little character. I know she doesnt beleive me alone and i know she needs extra awareness to make it real. I know she wont be petrified or anxious about it, she will simply be more aware.

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haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 11:04

apology accepted?

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SueBarooooItslikeaWarzone · 30/10/2007 11:06

Haychee, I don't get it. On the one hand you say it's about knowing your own child. On the other you say that people who decide this isn't the best way of dealing with the topic are being oblivious etc. Can't have it both ways.

mamazombie · 30/10/2007 11:06

and that is yoru choice for your child.

maybe when she hits her teens you could take her to an abortion clinic to show her the risks of teenage pregnancy, or a morgue to show her the realities of not looking when crossing a street.

we are talking about teaching children about peadophiia? somethign that most adults cannot even comprehend, and by the number of shovel wavers who demonstrate support for such projects as this, there are clearly a great number who themselves are clearly terrified.

children should remain children. do not force your own fears onto them,

haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 11:10

maybe when she hits her teens you could take her to an abortion clinic to show her the risks of teenage pregnancy, or a morgue to show her the realities of not looking when crossing a street.

FFS!

Its a cartoon! It doesnt show actual ordeals.Its aimed at children, to raise awareness not to terrify them!

I think your post is out of order.

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oliveoil · 30/10/2007 11:12

AMEN

oliveoil · 30/10/2007 11:12

(my god bothering was to the previous post)

mamazombie · 30/10/2007 11:14

i dont think its out of order at all. there are a greta number of people who think that by shocking children with adult information will prepare them and help them make an informed decision.

wasn't it here someones hubby wanted to take their chuildren to an abetoir in order to show them that being a vegetarian was the better option?

i do not think that peadophilia as a subject matter for children.
they should be taught stranger danger certainly. not all kidnappings or chidl murders are sexually motivated.

not all child abusers are peadophiles. but then the NOTW doesn't print that does it.

Enid · 30/10/2007 11:14

very good post mamazombie

RubyShivers · 30/10/2007 11:14

mamazombie - you have hit the nail on the head

haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 11:15

sue
oliveoil initially siad she wont even tell hers about any of it. That to me is burrying your head in the sand. But then again hers are 5&3, so not really yet appropriate to be worried about them going to the park unattended by an adult, or wanting to walk home from school with their friends. We will se how she feels when thay are of that age.

I think it is about knowing your own child. My dd wants to go to the park with her friends. I know she is fearless. I know there are current risks in my area.

Not contradictory imo.

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oliveoil · 30/10/2007 11:17

snort

oliveoil · 30/10/2007 11:18

when my children are 'of an age' we will be living by the beach and I will have to warn them of sharks (of the ocean kind) instead

haychEebeeJeebees · 30/10/2007 11:19

mamazombie

But the cartoon dvd is that detailed. Not like visiting a morgue or abortion clinic or abetoir. It a simple cartoon designed for children. Its not scary. Its simple and just raises awareness.
It cannot be compared to visiting an abetoir - that just ridiculous.

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