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[minorityrules]

It would appear!

Nice to see bullying wasn't lost in the classroom.

No one has the right to stop conversation and intimidate people into submission

You will never stop people talking about the news, but hey, keep thinking you are so above and better than others (minght help if you went out and got a life)

Well the people doing the bullying are hardly going to own up to it being bullying are they? It never works like that.

This has all been fun apparently, although someone did admit it was aggression earlier. I'm quite new here but it's given me a poor view of Mumsnet which is a shame because previously I'd been pleased to find a place that had such a high quality of posts and topics and plenty of people with interesting things to say.

I still think those of you who didn't like what was being said should have reported individual posts or ignored the threads you found offensive.

Well, that's the thing about bullying, Elizabetth, it's such a shitty thing to accuse someone of because there is no defense against that sort of accusation.

"You're a bully!"

"No I am not!"

"Well, you would say that, because you are a bully!"

A bully will not admit to being a bully. Neither will someone who is NOT a bully. You can't defend your reputation against that accusation, because all the 'victim' has to say is that they now 'feel bad'.

MR seriously abandon this and come over to the dna thread and discuss how women always get the blame...

I have noticed that when the girls in my classes fall out, each does tend to accuse the other of bullying...

right, you're new. listen up. we DID ignore them, for MONTHS. what did that achieve? fuck all, just the proliferation of more and more and MORE threads. and more and more and more really dense newbies who came here because it's one of the few parenting sites allowing McCann threads.
it's a drawback of free speech, that we've collected all the loonies, so asking them to shut up, then haivng some fun tonight is a way of reclaiming some space on here, okay?

now, with the best will in the world, that's not bullying imo. they've pushed and pushed and pushed with their free speech and now people who disagree with them are pushing back with theirs. tough shit.

exctly, colditz. it's just witch-dunking.

spot on. I want to be in your gang then KH (did I know you in another life/name? who were you before?)

Actually CC, I answered someone saying I didn't know what bullying was

I answered that I did

I stand by that I think bullying has gone on over a few days, not just tonight

I think fun was had at the expense of others

I still think it's wrong to have ablanket ban on a subject that is huge

Go look at the last few threads, as far as I can recall there was one person spouting she knew exactly what went on in portugal. Wouldn't it have been easier to just report her and ignore her. People were registering their distaste over people saying sky news was ridiculous fgs

i am Aitch when not upping the workers.

but there is no blanket ban. The MM threads will still exist, MN doens't censor. So if the MM threads can exist why can't other people post a few silly threads or have a thread objecting to the other thread? Or am I missing your point MR? MNHQ have said it is inappropriate to bump the MM threads with sillyness because that limits free speech. Offensive comments to posters on MM threads have also (I understand) been removed. So there are limits to how people can express their objection to some things that have been posted. It was suggested earlier that like netmums we only have one MM thread and all posts about the topic should be on one thread. I think that would be a good idea but at the same time I wonder if that counts as limiting free speech and be against the mn philosphy.

If I were being told to shut up, I would post even more vociferously to wind everyone up. Which I am thinking is happening.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber-bullying
sorry but can't see that what is happening on mn sounds like anything described here

Having also been bullied (horrendously) at school I'm severely pissed off with people calling what is happening on here today bullying. Since when did people arguing against you or posting shite compare with being physically attacked, called names, not being allowed to walk home from school without being followed and jeered at etc.

Oh that I could have stopped it all by just switching off my computer.

You demean what many children are going through at this moment, today.

Thanks to the rest of you loons, you've really cheered me up

I agree manictigger - this ain't bullying.

And personally, until the police (not the papers, not posters on MN or any other website) have the evidence to prove what happened to the poor child and/or who was responsible for it, I am going to ignore it all. I want to know what happened but atm no-one knows anything.

So if you all found out that Haychee was, in fact, Welshboris, would you be quite as nasty (only using WB as example)?

Well the reason why so many love MN is because the voice of reason and sound intellect ,as well as the voices of some rather bloody funny [as in ha ha] people, define the site. Welshboris couldn't be Haychee because, well,to be tactful, because she's contributed to countless different threads that have helped create the MN community. MN has been hijacked by people recently who are googling McCann and would not normally post here, and who want to indulge in vile speculation for their own purposes. I haven't seen any of these posters getting involved in other threads, either to offer people advice or even discuss other news events. It is a totally selfish, self oriented [not to mention hurtful to the people involved] exercise.

If I found out that WB was Haychee, I would (seriously) be worried that she was developing schizophrenia. I think most people on here judge people by their posts and their attitude, not on some fuzzy definition of oldness or newness.

The other day a whole thread was deleted because everyone who read it thought it was in extremely bad taste and reported it to MNHQ. The OP has been on MN since long before the MM case began so could hardly be described as a newbie but no-one (rightly) cut her any slack just because she was an 'oldie'.

I think that like in RL, on here you earn respect by being kind, helpful, funny and interesting to be with. And I guess the longer you're on here and the more you post, IF you possess those qualities, they're more likely to be revealed. But that 'club' is open to everyone, not just those who've been on MN for x number of years.

Manictigger well said on both posts