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morningpaper · 11/09/2007 20:49

Instead of starting lots of new posts about Madeleine, could I politely request that anyone who wants to post on the subject please post on this one thread? (N.B. Duplicate threads may be flamed hysterically.)

Please note that this thread is not to criticise Madeleine's parents or family, as this is not in the spirit of Mumsnet.

Please can I take the liberty to quote from this article:

"This is the real life of Kate and Gerry McCann, and it must now have become a place of agony beyond all understanding. Pity them, if you have any compassion at all, and demonstrate the minimum of grace: the ability to desist from judgment."

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sparkybabe · 13/09/2007 13:38

A happy thread ???This is a happy thread? What does it take to have a message removed by mumsnet, anyway?

grinningbear · 13/09/2007 13:39

while you are all busy bitching to each other can we please remember what this is all about

Pedanticandproud · 13/09/2007 13:39

Well it's altogether happier than all the other McCann threads I've seen, wouldn't you say?

grinningbear · 13/09/2007 13:40

please ignore all the comments on that link

NKF · 13/09/2007 13:40

Lots of speculative and nasty posts on there I see. Are you seriously recommending it?

Pedanticandproud · 13/09/2007 13:42

Now I can't get into that thread and by the sounds of it, that is a good thing.

We are not bitching at all. I object to your rancorous tone.

Pedanticandproud · 13/09/2007 13:45

There is a group of people who firmly believe that all discussion of the McCann case should be banned.

Mumsnet found a compromise - just one thread and the people who wanted to discuss it would be left alone.

Unfortunately there are still some people who think it is okay to come and hurl abuse at anyone who wants to discuss this case and associated issues.

I am going to suggest kickboxing to all the people coming on this thread looking for a fight. It would be much more fun and altogether better for them. More peaceful for us too.

MrsMarvel · 13/09/2007 13:48

Help is at hand...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/67/387740

MrsMarvel · 13/09/2007 13:48

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/67/387740

LIZS · 13/09/2007 14:24

Actaully PandP I don't think that is entirely true that all such threads should be banned. What is the issue is more the circular, tired nature of the "discussion" and the inability to leave it until such time as more factual information becomes available. Instead latching on to every revised headline as if somehow that gives new meaning to old reports. Then there are those posters who relish the more sordid speculative details, thankfully less so on this thread admittedly.

quint · 13/09/2007 14:33

Actually Pedantic this thread started off just fine until all the witch hunters and speculation freaks showed up. And those who insited on draggin up the fact that they left their children unattended like that was a new piece of news and indicated their gulit.

prettybird · 13/09/2007 14:37

Tamz77 - has the risk increased, or is it just our perception of it, whipped up the all pervasive media and 24 hour reporting?

Personally, I beleive the latter. The only risk I accept as having increased is that of traffic - both more and faster cars.

Arguaby, an indirect risk has icnreased,a dn that is the lack of societal expectations: that we all have a responsibility to look after children and care for them if they need it. How many men are now scared of apporaching a crying child in the street becasue of the fear of being accued of something?

DH and I had a disucssion with someone on holiday about CRB checking. he said surely we would want to know that ds' rugby coaches had been CRB chekced. We said NO - as the check is only as good as the moment it is performed and whether or not a person has actually been caught - and what was more imprtant was to be involved with ds' rugby, so that we had our own sense of confidence with his coaches - and also to teach ds what was acceptable/unacceptable behaviour.

MrsMarvel · 13/09/2007 14:46

By the way pedantic I didn't get flamed on the other thread at all. Come over and discuss - leave the crusaders to their crusading.

We even menioned the McCann case briefly! But it's a thread about parenting, which is the only reason any of us are interested in the MM Case - because it is pertinent to our own lives.

ruty · 13/09/2007 14:47

witch hunters? Good grief some of you have a heightened sense of your own drama. I have never and would never leave my children unattended, but don't understand why you get such a kick out of judging others. Ah well, if it makes you feel better.

figroll · 13/09/2007 15:19

I have just been on another internet forum - just mooching around, etc. If you think that there are ghouls on this thread I was shocked by some of the things written on the internet generally about this case. In fact, shocked is the wrong word, I was sickened by it actually. Mumsnet has actually been very tame.

This is what the internet and the media are doing - they are making the McCanns characters in a drama being played out for all our enjoyment.

Some are even making jokes/having a laugh about it - a bit like Billy Connolly and Ken Bigley.

figroll · 13/09/2007 15:21

Sorry about all my "actuallys" - I don't like the word as a rule. It is one of those superfluous words that has no meaning whatever and can be omitted in every instance.

forsale · 13/09/2007 16:46

i see the jokes have started on Popbitch

HorribleHorace · 13/09/2007 16:57

i've also seen some disgraceful stuff on Facebook. I have asked for one particular group to be shut down because it made me sick

totaleclipse · 13/09/2007 17:16

social sevices reps are apparently at the McCann house

rainbowbadger · 13/09/2007 17:28

Is anyone neglecting their kids by constantly posting on here and watching Sky instead of checking on them? Might have to tell social services .......

NadineBaggott · 13/09/2007 17:29

hmm I think I may have seen that one Horace - sickening indeed!

totaleclipse · 13/09/2007 17:30

I yell thier names occasionaly to check they are ok

Pedanticandproud · 13/09/2007 17:32

We've had a really good discussion about childcare etc and thank you all for that. I'll leave this thread now, as it is making me very sad.

Don't flame me for posting this thought, but I have got to the point of sincerely hoping that the McCanns are guilty.

This is because I cannot bear the thought of them having lost their daughter and now scrutiny over their other children.

This media circus is so grotesquely horrible that I don't even want to think about someone innocent having to undergo this ordeal.

HorribleHorace · 13/09/2007 17:41

i know exactly what you mean pedantic

kerrykatona · 13/09/2007 17:48

pedant i hate to say i was thinking along the same lines, but only because at least that way they will know exactly what happened to there dd and that she did not suffer etc.

the thought of not knowing who had my baby or what they had done would kill me.

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