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Why is the Daily Mail so hated on here?

276 replies

NAB3 · 11/09/2007 13:09

What does it do that is so wrong?

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Caroline1852 · 11/09/2007 20:19

I love daily-mail-o-matic. Thank you.
The best writing is in the FT - it is unwordy and precise. It is Chekhov.

OldieMum · 11/09/2007 22:01

Here's another reason to hate the DM - its long and inglorious record of anti-semitism (including support for Oswald Moseley and his British Union of Fascists) and appeasement in the 1930s. That's enough for me.

doyouwantfrieswiththat · 11/09/2007 22:24

erm because it's dangerously believable to some people (I believe it used to be a broadsheet way back in the mists of time)

I'm pretty cynical about the BBC too

seeker · 12/09/2007 09:48

I like the catch all Sun Headline SEX CHANGE VICAR IN MERCY DASH TO PALACE"

Kevlarhead · 13/09/2007 00:31

"Here's another reason to hate the DM - its long and inglorious record of anti-semitism"

What, you mean like this telegram from
Lord Rothermere, founder of the Daily Mail to his little German friend?

"MY DEAR FUHRER EVERYONE IN ENGLAND IS PROFOUNDLY MOVED BY THE BLOODLESS SOLUTION OF THE CZECHOSLOVAKIAN PROBLEM STOP PEOPLE NOT SO MUCH CONCERNED WITH TERRITORIAL READJUSTMENT AS WITH THE DREAD OF ANOTHER WAR WITH ITS ACCOMPANYING BLOODBATH STOP FREDERICK THE GREAT A GREAT POPULAR FIGURE IN ENGLAND MAY NOT ADOLF THE GREAT BECOME AN EQUALLY POPULAR FIGURE STOP I SALUTE YOUR EXCELLENCY'S STAR WHICH RISES HIGHER AND HIGHER"

aelita · 13/09/2007 16:31

Hm, Good question...there's a saying (don't ask me who said it) that 'the biased see bias'. So while some DM writers and readers berate the likes of the Guardian and ITs readers as politically correct, limp-wristed liberal whingers then Guardian-type readers and most MNers (it would appear) deride the DM camp as rabid racists, misogynists and right-wingers. Don't think it's that simple.

I read the DM's online version (I read all the papers' online versions. News junkie. Bad thing. It's all so f**ing depressing) and I can honestly say there are some interesting and reasoned articles on there, (not sure I'd include Peter Hitchens there. He's a bit loopy) as well as some that you roll your eyes at. Same with the Independent, Telegraph etc etc.

What I hate about it, and this is the reason I'd never buy it, is the incessant sniping by female writers at women in the public eye, with closeup (and probably Photoshopped) pictures of thighs and knees and hands and faces, accompanied by sneering headlines along the lines of 'Look at her! She's looking a bit old/fat/thin/gnarly/full of cellulite'.

But I reckon the comments about the anti-Semitism in the 30's and that being a good reason for hating it now are a bit odd. Lord Rothermere was clearly a wholehearted facist, but he was born in 1868! Anti-Semitism was pretty common both before and after the war. Things have moved on, a bit. Following that logic, I presume you agree wholeheartedly with people who still hate the Germans

More recently, it was the DM that named who most held to be responsible for killing Stephen Lawrence, on the front page, and challenged them to sue. They didn't. Is that the action of an irredeemably racist paper? And put it this way, if the readership was as vicious and racist as people claim it to be, I guess we'd have a lot more BNP councillors knocking about..

HairyToe · 14/09/2007 20:41

Lets not be too hard on the Daily Mail - I think it's hilarious. The only danger is that some people may take it seriously.

Its even funnier (more scary) when people read the sensationalist tripe in the paper and repeat it in embellished form in conversation. A close member of my family foamed at the mouth as they told me all about a new 'pox' striking down children (probably as a result of the evils of the modern age/working women/things aint what they used to be etc etc.) Apparently it caused a rash and whatever you do you "must never ever knock the top of the spots" - or the child would spontaneously combust resumably. When I actually rad the article it was referring to Molluscum (not as you might have thought the return of Bubonic PLague).

Meglet · 14/09/2007 20:58

It is a homophobic, sexist, right-wing bit of tat. Sorry, really hate it.

Have joined the Facebook anti- Daily mail coalition to cheer myself up.

PSCMUM · 14/09/2007 21:04

ooo where to even start?>
it is islamaphonic, racist, anti single mums, anti single dad, anti in fact any family composition that is not mum, dad, 2.4 children, anti divorce, anti abortion, homophobic, nimbyist, self preservationist, anti refugee, inhumane, sexist, with no grasp of legitimate environmental concerns, and is generally a big pile of shite written by total ding dongs with no actual connection with the real world.

PSCMUM · 14/09/2007 21:05

not to forget anti working mums, teen mums, old mums, lesbian mums, et etc etc etc etc etc

janeitebus · 14/09/2007 21:26

Only read the original post, so apologies if repeating what others have said; but I would say that the Daily Mail is so universally despised because it is as useful and well-balanced as used loo roll but is masquerading as a newspaper. Just mho though!

Thunderpants · 15/09/2007 20:45

I'd never read it before until we went on holiday and got a free copy of it. I was quite happily reading an editorial and then was shocked by the "string 'em up" mentality of the writer. Then it occured to me that it was a piss-take. I read the reaminder thinking how funny and clever it was. Then DP informed me that it wasn't a piss-take, that they really are a bunch of right-wing t*ssers. I've never read it since, and pity people who do, because they must believe what they read, and that's very, very frightening.

Nightynight · 15/09/2007 22:26

I used to read it as a student. Im not sure if it has got worse, or if I simply grew up. Anyway, here's my take on hating it:

It exists for the sole purpose of peddling a view of british society, that it believes its readers want to hear. The news is used merely as a prop for this purpose.

Hurlyburly · 15/09/2007 22:27

Because it is vile. Have I already said that? Well it's double vile anyway so worth saying twice.

kittywits · 15/09/2007 22:37

'cos it full of jingoistic shite

bossybritches · 15/09/2007 22:50

Well aren't you a bunch of opinionated judgemental bigots!!

I think people are entitled to read whatever they choose & enjoy getting their information from wherever they feel most comfortable. I would never put anyone down for reading the sun/mirror or Gruniad if that's their choice.

I enjoy a variety of papers & have favourite & not so favourite bits/columns in each.

Including the DM!!!

By all means have a heated debate about differing articles/viewpoints, that's healthy but I wouldn't dream of criticising an individuals choice of paper.

puffling · 15/09/2007 23:03

evil

FREAKshow · 15/09/2007 23:04

Is this a serious question or are you taking the piss?

giraffeski · 15/09/2007 23:11

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giraffeski · 15/09/2007 23:11

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UCM · 15/09/2007 23:13

It's not hated , it's become an icon that no one admits to reading, like admitting that you bottle fed, or wear grey bras because even though they are grey, they still hold yer tits up IYKWIM.

newlifenewname · 15/09/2007 23:13

I'm a member of this facebook group

christywhisty · 16/09/2007 10:11

Bossybritches

It's always those who claim to be most liberal, anti this or that , which are the most bigoted.
They basically say
"You can believe in anything you want as long as it agrees with my point of view"

bossybritches · 16/09/2007 10:42

Exactly Christy!!

Funny too the way they all know what's in it even though it's soooo bad & of course they NEVER read it!!

Pruners · 16/09/2007 10:50

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