Kate McCann offered a 'deal' if she confesses to killing madeleine

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thank God, the voice of reason

that was to NotanOtter

lomondgal - great posting...

We all muddle through being parents - when I first posted on mumsnet 5 years ago it really helped & gave lots of support to parents wondering what the 'right' thing to so is..not so judgemental.

oops meant great posting sittingbull

Good post, Mamazon.

Taken from the NSPCC website
www.nspcc.org.uk/helpandadvice/publications/leaflets/homealone_pdf_wdf36243.pdf

Never leave babies or young children home
alone (whether sleeping or awake), not even for a few minutes.

Most children under about 13 are not mature enough to cope with an emergency and should not be left alone for more than a very short time.

The Portugese don't do plea bargains. More tosh from Sky, fed by the McCann hype machine.
Also the Portgeese police don't bring charges - they present a dossier to the procesecutor who decides.

I remember this story which certainly made me question the professionalism of the Portugese police. Why would you let someone charged with beating a confession out of the mother of a missing child lead an investigation into another missing child? It does make me suspicious of their integrity in turning the spotlight on Kate and Gerry McCann, frankly.

So far they have made three English people suspects. Which could be reasonable, or could be very tempting if you want to make it clear the crime is nothing to do with your country.

McEdam that is the story which has been playing on my mind, i also agree with everything you have said in your last post.

This is more idle speculation and supposition, but I read that one of the party saw a man carrying a child out of the apartments after Gerry had been to 'check' on her.
I wondered if perhaps Gerry knew this man had taken her - alive or otherwise - Gerry was apparently chatting to some other person for a few minutes at the time, on his way back to the bar. Possibly stalling or something?

Nobody knows of course but I wondered if anyone else had thought of it.

I have concluded that I am posting on here as reassurance that my thoughts/suspicions are perhaps shared, not because I want actively to condemn anybody before they are shown to have done anything. Acknowledging that I haven't a clue about what really happened.

Also if Gerry is supposed to have said he presumed she had moved to the other room to get away from the babies crying, the picture that conjures up of crying babies being left completely alone for an hour or even half an hour at a time, is just appalling.

That was something I read but I don't know if it is true.

Do people really sedate their children? I don't have a problem with leaving them asleep in a hotel room and checking them if they are good sleepers (I've never done it as my daughter has always been a v light sleep, ds on the other hand to sleep through an earthquake)but if you feel you have to sedate them to do this it smacks of not being able to come to terms with responsibility of looking after small children. Not saying that this is what the Mccanns did - innocent until proven guilty imo - just wondered if this was really something someone might do.

I do not understand if the friend saw a man carrying a child away from the apartment, why that friend wouldnt intervene.

I think this friend has false memory syndrome

apparantly he thought it was just another dad carrying his sleepy child back to an appartment.

Loads of people sedate their children. I was in a queue in a hospital pharmacy once collecting a prescription, and the woman in front of me was collecting sedatives for her poor sleeping toddler. She was saying what a godsend the drugs are and the pharmacist was saying yes, we give out a lot of these.

It was Jane something, she hadn't really clocked it until later when Madeleine had gone.
It didn't say if the child looked anything like her though, just she remembered seeing somebody carrying a kid.

Perhaps it was a false memory. It just made me think, if Gerry didn't go into the other bedroom, the person could have been hiding in there with her, or they could have sneaked in after Gerry had left, or it could have been that he was involved.

But if the person left after Gerry, they would have had to be hiding somewhere while he was checking the apartment if you see what I mean.

Wow, i didnt think these types of sedatives were so freely available .

So they are now formal suspects. Will they be allowed to come back to the UK?

what springs to my mind is that the man carrying the child could have been gerry? and the 10 min chat was made up as an alibi so it shows he checked on them?

yes they can
there are no bail restrictions

No i think they are not allowed to travel.

Paula, not while they are under Arguida status...they have to report to police every 5 days or something like that.

So Gerry went in - Maddy wasn't htere - and he left assuming she was in another room??

but didnt make sure before leaving??
that cant be right!

oh, I was under the understanding they said he was walking away from the McCann flat.

I think I know why so many people find it so hard to even entertain the idea that the parents could be involved. It is of course because of the huge amount of attention and coverage the 'official' story ie abduction has received. It has almost been programmed into the public's psyche that this is what happened as so we naturally look at the paltry evidence so far and try in our own minds to make it fit to an abduction scenario.

To change that mindset now is quite difficult.

I cant actually believe they did it, but I think that's because it goes against everything we have been conditioned so far to think and feel about this case I think.

Cant get me head around any of it at all.

Really hope the McCanns are not involved but Sky New has a habit of sensationalising stories - the more drama the better which doesn't help. So we'll wait and see. Innocent till proven guilty IMO.

apparently he didnt go in he just listened