So, this smoking ban............how many of you are for it, and how many against?

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If you are against it - why are you?

I get it about psychiatric units- but the thing is (imo) that choice by law has to provide for all- why should the smoker be able to excercise a choice which removes the choice of non-smokers? As it effectively does in a crowded environment.

In psychiatric units I think desiganated areas should be permissable.

My dp used to smoke 20 aday then around 30 aday at weekends. He was like me and said one day he really didn't like it anymore and stopped right then and has never looked back. I believe that if you truly want to stop then you will, but if you don't really want to stop but keep saying you must then you never will give up until you truly want to.

i believe you are right icing.

i must stop.

however when i wante4d to stop a few years ago i did it with ease and happyness and lasted for over a year until i had major shit hit fan.

now i am "i must" stop. i just must. but i really dont want to.

hay ho - 2 days

Peachy by me not being able to exercise a right to smoke in a pub (and thats the only place I think it should not have been banned in), I am losing a right. Truly I agree with a public. My local pub landlord smokes and owns his pub, he doesn't want the ban and neither do the regulars. But another bar I go to occasionally opened up as a non smoking bar. I respect that too.

Yes peachy - that is all I am advocating for. Designated areas I mean.

Should have read a public ban, no one who doesn't want to should have to put up with smoking if they don't want it. But those who don't mind should be able to as well IYSWIM.

But i cant go in the pub (and neither can many asthamatics etc) if you smoke in the pub

Why is my right less than yours? Thats what I dont get

2 poeple in a bar both ahev rights to do as they wish

1 smokes- the other has to as well

OR one doesnt smoke, but can later / elsewhere so neitehr are fully rpevented from doing what they want

I gave up for a year too, i still liked smoking but thought i best give up. Then started again because i missed it. Then one day i just hated it and said 'no more'. I don't miss it now at all and hate the thought of it, it's strange how your mind just decides it hates smoking.

peachy i have to disagree with you. Many of my friends dont like the ban here in wales. And on a night out in cardiff now you can always get a seat because half the pub is standing outside in the street whics just ruins the night when youre a group of smokers and non-smokers because you tend to spend the night in two groups.

I still stand by the idea of smoking and non-smoking pubs, lots of wetherspoons pubs have been non smoking for a while and I just chose not to go in there.

Ok, thats why I am suggesting that some pubs are non smoking and some are smoking. If I went for a beer with you, I would gladly go to the non smoking one - in Summer . What are you having btw.

If I went with a smoking friend I would go to the smoking one.

As it seems that loads of people on here are non smokers, I think that the non smoking pubs would do a blinding trade.

you are absolutely right peachy. It is a very strange logic of smokers that they have a right to smoke and enforce their smoking on others.

I don't think this ban will affect smokers at first being summer, they can go outside as it's warm(ish) and light and pleasant. It won't hit home until those freezing November nights when it's raining and no one will want to go outside.

I haven't read the thread just to say I'm all for it - I want my dcs to grow up without cigarettes around them.

Any smoker would be horrified if their child started to smoke

See I dont mind smoking pubs- bet I bet we'd end up with the crap ones

FWIW Mosschops the students at my Uni in Newport really dont seem to mind- and Caerleon is justa s packed on a Saturday night as ever.

About 50% of my friends smoke and they don't seem to mind )well they say they don't), maybe if we were a mainly smoking group it's differ.

I dont think we have a right to smoke but I do think 'everyone has a right to choice' and thats what most of us are saying, not that we want to breathe smoke all over your meals/children/nights out etc, but we would like to have the choice to do it somewhere when we go out to relax

They all go outside in Scotlnd, whatever the weather. Jolly canopies erected, huddling against the cold. They smoke fewer fags than they used to, and one friend said they quite liked that 'cause when you're drinking in a pub you often start needlessly chain smoking anyway.

The rain and cold doesn't keep 'em in though

Quite a few pubs put up shelters and heaters. Most thoughtful

when i smoked, i could go all day on 3 fags. then when in the pub, i could get through 3 in an hour!

Also fwiw I really ahve no problem with epople smokinga s long as I don't have to inhale. The trouble is, 1 person in a room of 100 smoking and I have to inhale.

I don't know about smoking rooms- my guess is the idea is that smoking will seem less glam to people who are not yet smoing if you have to go outside to do it in winter. So whilst its a thing that could work now the deterrant may well be worth it in the long run. I'm not addicted to gas obv- but it it were something I loved but I knew could harm my kids I'd be willing to see it made less acceptable. OK, being overweight I am atm but I am doing everything in my power to prevent my kids becoming so, as wella s trying to change myself and anything which helps that I am for.

I know its addictive and I cant truly understand what its like to have it banned- I do. But 9to be really ahrsh and sorry not meaning to offend) but surely when smokers had their first fag they knew it was unhealthy? I did, thats why I chose not to- despite aprents and best friends that smoked.

fags not gas obv

I think one of the reasons that people start to smioke is becasue they think that it must be enjouyable if so many people do it- they will never believe it's that bad whilst they see it freely used in public.

We wouldn't want to go to a pub and see people injecting themselves with heroin and so it should be with tobacco which is just another destructive and addictive drug.

Smoking ban is fab. They brought it in in Scotland just as I found out I was pregnant which was very considerate of them. It's really caused no bother and everyone seems to just get on with it and smoke outside if they want to.

Weirdly you never really see that many people outside at once as it always seemed like loads of people were smoking so people have obviously seriously cut down if not actually stopped.

I only know one person who's actually stopped going out because of it and she's a nutter who stopped going to the pictures when they banned smoking in cinemas and also refuses to fly because of not being able to smoke.

I am guessing this ban will deter people from starting smoking in the first place. If you put in smoking rooms etc, it won't be much of a deterant will it?

Deffo for the ban - can't wait!