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Paedos to be chemically castrated

163 replies

lyrabelacqua · 13/06/2007 08:55

What do you think of this ?
I think it's a great idea if it stops a perv's vile behaviour.

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LaBoheme · 13/06/2007 10:01

A big part of me agrees with you Harley.

oliveoil · 13/06/2007 10:01

stab em
burrrrrn em
boil em
etc etc

rattleskuttle · 13/06/2007 10:02

if it stops one child from being hurt it's worth it

Blu · 13/06/2007 10:04

There seems to be an awful lot of cinfusion about what this is, what 'castration' means and what it's effect is.

If drugs could be used succesfully to quell the impulse to be attracted to children, then I would be in favour of a trial. But i am interested that a person who has a professional interest in stopping child abuse is sceptical about it.

There will be a big kneejerk punitive reaction in favour of anything called 'castration', as we see....

Aitch · 13/06/2007 10:04

haven't read thread but paedos? is that what we're calling them now? gawd.

lyrabelacqua · 13/06/2007 10:05

I like the rusty shears idea.
someone's going to accuse us of being hysterical in a minute.

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oliveoil · 13/06/2007 10:07

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DominiConnor · 13/06/2007 10:10

The idea doesn't impress me, and (irinically) seems still to pander to the dope Guardian reader idea that paedos can be "cured".

Firstly, it is known that some chemically or physically castrated men still go on to commit sex assaults. It's a behaviour deep in their psyche, removing the gear does'nt alway remove the desire.
A danger is that they are seen as "safe", and this is cheap for the government, and social workers can keep on playing doctors and nurses.

But they're not.
What you have done is taken someone with proven severe issues towards others. You then strike right at the heart of his sexual identity, and for paedos that is often the entire core of their personality.
Some will no doubt lapse into "acceptable" behaviour. Others will have a permanent grudge against their targets, or indeed may find a new class of victim.

This is a pattern we see with the CSA, recycling, and now criminal justice. This government doesn't "do" detail, like making things work. It has thus given up, and rather than administer processes welll, which is boring, they are going for ever higher "penalties".

Whoooosh · 13/06/2007 10:10

Yes probably but who cares-they are the vilest manifestation of the human life form and deserve no place in civilised society.

PinkChick · 13/06/2007 10:11

i agree hatrick, i cringe at the shortening name, its like a friendly term.
think its very good the government are considering such a poitive and painful course of action and would back it 100000%

ELF1981 · 13/06/2007 10:11

but from what I understood, the chemical castration does not completely stop the desire to have a "relationship" with a child.

I dont know what the solution is.

rattleskuttle · 13/06/2007 10:12

agree with colditz's post of 9.24.24

PinkChick · 13/06/2007 10:13

it may not stop them feeling the way they do but its like in other countries, if your caught stealing you get you fingers chopped off, same principle...id gladly weild the blunt rusty infected knife!

pagwatch · 13/06/2007 10:14

I have some personal experience here and whilst it may help in some cases it is a MASSIVE misunderstanding to think that if you subdue sexual desire then all paedophiles will stop.
The sexual act & gratification is only a part of the motivation - a paedophile is often a very extreme bully who wishes to degrade and humiliate those weaker than themselves. The control and generating fear etc in a child is as much the "turn on" as the sexual element.
Chemical castration may well help in some cases but if we think all then we are deluded. More importantly we may become even less able than we already are to spot the type of paedophile who does not snatch a child off the street but who grooms a child they know in order to gain control and to feel a sense of mastery over them. THAT foul urge will still remain

Aitch · 13/06/2007 10:16

yep, that'd work. all paedphilia would stop if there was a real deterrent...
either that or it would go more underground and more organised gangs would steal more children from their parents.
chemical castration might help men who desperately do not want to re-offend, but only if it were teamed with therapy and social work support. which i doubt it would be, tbh.

lyrabelacqua · 13/06/2007 10:19

But if it stops some then surely it's worth it?
Then some children would be saved from abuse.

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Peachy · 13/06/2007 10:22

They were interviewing somebodya bout this on tv today

What its seems to be is, in the apst chem cas has been offered but it was painful etc and relatively few took it up as a result, even when desperate to give up abusing

Now they have an anti depressant which in a certain dose causes an extreme drop in libido. They want toffer that, as it is relatively side effect free.

OK it might not stop them all- but hey if it stops or contributes to stoppin even one offence then Hey hallelujah- all for it.

I think the idea is that its a choice thing, many offenders (aaprently) want tos top but find the urdes hard to resist; its designed to help them, on top of their existing will power and desire to change.

Aitch · 13/06/2007 10:22

okay, so what about the men falsely accused of paedophilia, are you happy to line up with your rusty shears now? it's impossible to deal with people like this.
as i say, there may be some men who would be ready to deal with the loss of their sexual urges and their attraction to children, so i have no issue with them being helped. but the whole 'string em up, chop it off' line leaves be cold.

KerryMum · 13/06/2007 10:22

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Flumpybumpy · 13/06/2007 10:23

colditz, I agree, I hate shortened words particularly when Crematorium is shortened to Crem, it drives me mad!!!

Maybe teh castration isn't a magic solution, it could act as a deterant????

Peachy · 13/06/2007 10:23

apologies for typing, migraine wearing off so vision still distorted

Peachy · 13/06/2007 10:24

Aitch the idea is I think that it is voluntary, rather than forced.

Aitch · 13/06/2007 10:27

of course the chemical castration is, peachy. but the rusty shears brigade don't sound like they'd be administering their cure along with years of therapy and support. it's them i'm at. the chem castration, as i said, could work with support.

harleyd · 13/06/2007 10:28

so if some f**r abuses your child and then says i am sorry i really want to stop this, are you happy to let them tootle along for a couple of tablets and a bit of therapy? i say bollocks, sort them that they cant tie their own shoelaces never mind abuse again.

oliveoil · 13/06/2007 10:28