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MADELEINE MCCANN - News Updates (please try not to argue)

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MrsSpoon · 16/05/2007 19:05

The old thread takes too long to load.

Lets hope this is the one that contains the good news that she has been found alive and well.

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Budababe · 21/05/2007 13:02

All of the vitriol that has come out of the whole case has sickened me.

At the beginning anyone who showed what others felt to be too much interest were criticised. Then those posters were criticised back. Then there are those posters who are criticising the family. It is one thing disagreeing with someone but the way in which it is often done is horrible.

A few of us tried to point out that we are all different and react to things in different ways.

What I really really don't understand is how these disagreements turn so nasty. Whatever happened to politeness and treating others as you would wish to be treated.

I don't really want to name people but I will! I disagreed with a thread started by MP. Told her so. Don't think I was nasty (hope not anyway) and then find I agree with a post of hers this morning. That is real life. You agree with people one day and disagree another time. There is no coming back from any of it if there is name-calling and swearing and vitriol. I haven't agreed with some of Enid's posts. But hey-ho that's life. I'm sure I will agree with her on another topic. And she is entitled to her views.

In some of the hoo-ha about SWMNBN there were arguements that the internet is a bit like a conversation in a pub. But it's not. If people were as horrible in a pub as they are on here they would either get their heads kicked in or be barred!

roseanglaise · 21/05/2007 13:06

Absolutely not sarcastic - am never sarcastic. I hope someone will take what Brian says seriously and investigate. Have an open mind and spend some time looking at his track record! Anything's worth a shot, isn't it?

Boco · 21/05/2007 13:09

Oh Enid you really can't go over this. The strange people who have come to mn purely to post on this subject will not integrate into the rest of the board. I think their unpleasant opinions are best ignored, there's no point challenging them, just let them tire themselves out until they get bored.

AitchTwoOh · 21/05/2007 13:18

so do we think that what's happening is that people are googling the little girl's name and coming up with MN threads and people are joining up specifically to post? that is weird, granted, but if so they'll probably leave when this situation is 'resolved', however that happens. I don't really think it merits anyone leaving, tbh. dora was rude, she should apologise but she's also the kind of person who spends time in disney chatrooms so...

some people have taken an unhealthy interest in the case from the start, they're not posting on other threads, we're not (tbvh) that interested in their opinions so can't we just leave them to it? No one is listening to reason, we've got Brian's Predictions back again... it's all such painful, horrible, terrible bollocks that the best thing to do is step back i think. it's all really naff and unseemly at this stage.

roseanglaise · 21/05/2007 13:21

Good thing about this thread is that it really reminds me of why I was so keen to leave the UK 10 years ago.
Good luck all.

Boco · 21/05/2007 13:22

That's what i meant too Aitch - get the impression that these posters won't be around for long.

JustineMumsnet · 21/05/2007 13:24

Hi everyone,
Just to reassure you we don't tolerate personal attacks and will delete such posts when they are reported. We have also banned OnlyinAmerica, who we can confirm was also posting under the name thirtiesmum and Dora74. (We wouldn't normally out people in this way, but seeing as she expressly asked us to confirm that she didn't have any aliases on this thread...)

We agree that the Madeleine McCann tragedy has spawned some very unpleasant and unsupportive comment on Mumsnet and we (and we hope you) will continue to remind people of the MN philosophy, namely that we're here to make parents' lives easier, not the reverse.

We do continue to hold the view, however, people have the right to express controversial opinions and debate the issues here, as much as elsewhere. Of course where that crosses the line into personal attacks/ troll-like flaming we are more than happy to delete things so please do report anything you consider to have crossed the line and we promise to look at it and deal as promptly as we can.

Thanks,
MNHQ

AitchTwoOh · 21/05/2007 13:27

she was what? stabbed by her very own sword of truth. LOL and back to the boycott.

littlelapin · 21/05/2007 13:30

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Quattrocento · 21/05/2007 13:39

Enid

I have had a particularly dreadful experience of Mumsnet - thankfully Mumsnet pulled the thread.

All I wanted to say, was you have my deepest sympathy. I remember actually that thirtiesmum was one of the bullies who ganged up on me! Hang on in there.

I'm very new to Mumsnet but I have found two or three really nice people. I think the McCann issue is really too emotive for people not to get overexcited about.

mumemma · 21/05/2007 14:18

I'm new to Mumsnet having joined after reading India Knight's Sunday Times article. She said she was very distressed and upset and got slated for it with several people also attacking the McCanns. Being only a few days after the disappearance, I was horrified at the reaction so I wanted to see what other mothers thought and whether anything positive was being done. In my case, nothing sinister going on at all in my joining and I certainly have not attacked the parents.

I did post some news when some MNetters said they didn't have access to the tv news. My work means I have to trawl through news stories all day via databases not generally available on the internet and I get translated versions of stories. There were numerous articles in the Portuguese press which I didn't post as they were so awful. Last week there were snippets of news coming out every few hours and some of us probably did a bit carried away, not through vicarious pleasure, but because we were emotional and desperate for a resolution.

However, the level of personal attacks and, IMO, bullying that happened after that was totally uncalled for. Several posts were taken out of context and those concerned ridiculed. I'm glad things have calmed down now. I've never seen such nastiness, to the point where new threads were set up just to attack people on the Madeleine threads!

The story is now slipping out of view and the McCanns are doing things like the online diary to humanise the story and try keep our interest. Inevitably, this will lead to the public forming stronger opinions about the parents themselves. I hope this doesn't result in a backlash.

There is definitely also a weirdo element - a bizarre story I saw about a mother and daughter who have travelled out to the Algarve to do their own search. They were wearing Madeleine t-shirts and gave an interview where they said 'nothing has affected like this since Diana' and this really was mawkish. I felt physically sick watching it.

Anyway, happy to boycott this thread and apologies for bumping it now.

littlelapin · 21/05/2007 14:28

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debbsyandsonn · 21/05/2007 16:12

On sky news british police appeal for holidaymakers photos of Madeleine's case suspects.

BigPantsRule · 21/05/2007 19:26

"On sky news british police appeal for holidaymakers photos of Madeleine's case suspects" - I suggested this over a week ago on the "we need your help" thread and e-mailed the idea to the family. I would have thought background photos/film would be one of the first ports of call for an investigator? I also mentioned that MW will have a full list of people who were staying in the resort. I can't imagine anyone would be unhappy about being contacted directly and asked to help in this way.

morningpaper · 21/05/2007 19:32

Well now this thread's been bumped again can I just say I really don't mind you naming me Budababe and your point is quite right

Now I'm going to put a big DO NOT RESUSCITATE notice on this thread

BigPantsRule · 21/05/2007 20:03

Sorry - just going by the title of the thread....

Wolfgirl · 21/05/2007 20:38

well, I for one am happy for news updates (but not the bickering), so report away Bigpants, your welcome!

Wolfgirl · 22/05/2007 12:26

oh my goodness, just read this!!!

Morocco may hold Madeleine clue

The couple who think they may have seen her said: "Despite making constant calls to police in Portugal, England and Spain, the couple say it took ten days for officials to contact them"

how is that!!! What went wrong there!?? I pray that poor lamb is OK. Bless her, lets keep praying she comes home safe. xxx

(PS, I hope I dont get screamed at for posting this

BigPantsRule · 22/05/2007 14:05

Thanks for that, Wolfgirl - haven't seen that report (ITN are obviously concentrating on this angle but I've been watching Sky and BBC). There are so many pictures and posters that have been circulated with the very purpose of alerting people to Madeleine's disappearance, yet when someone DOES think they have seen her then they have trouble being taken seriously. It must be so frustrating - if they were that sure, they should have contacted the media as well. And wtf did Moroccan police not know about the case???

Another angle, of course, is that any child bearing a strong resemblance to Madeleine is also likely to be noticed by more than one person. I wonder if it was the same petrol station/incident where the Norwegian woman claims to have spotted her?

Wolfgirl · 22/05/2007 14:27

You know what BigPants. I dont know whats going on. Im just so sad that she just hasn't been found and is home with her parents. I cant bear to think of a child being taken from its parents, it must and is one of the worst things in our lives, ever. So sad and cruel.

This case has opened up a world I was closed to, ignorant of tbh. I dont know of these people (Peodo's, kidnappers, abductors), and what makes them tick, or do such things. Other than being sick and it being an illness, they must be hard of heart, no conscience etc. Im a bit lost to know what to think, its like I have cotton wool stuffed in my head and cant get a grip that it actually goes on, but it does. Just read today, that a 19 month old got taken from her bed in Australia back in November and not been seen since. . It seems to be happening everyday, everywhere. Very scary!

Lets keep praying for Madeleines safe return (and all missing children come to that)

xx

BigPantsRule · 22/05/2007 14:40

I think we have to be positive Wolfgirl but it is becoming more and more difficult...As parents I think we feel so much more "involved" in this. I remember child abduction cases before I became a parent - wondering what happened to Genette Tate (she disappeared without trace in 1978 - showing my age here!!) and being truly shocked by what happened to little James Bulger. But it was different, I was outraged - naturally - as many people were, but I somehow feel more involved with this case (and other more recent cases), especially having a little DD just like Madeleine. If there is anything positive to come out of all this, perhaps it's that we'll appreciate our DCs more even when they are driving us up the wall

MrsSpoon · 22/05/2007 16:18

There was a press conference on Sky with the McCanns this afternoon here .

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fin54 · 22/05/2007 17:11

PLEASE DON?T LINCH ME
I have followed this and other threads about the McCann's and their missing daughter; I have not posted on any of the threads but have posted on MN before.
From the very start of this my husband has said that he finds the father very strange, Example of strange being that he is very calm and in control, I just thought that this was his thoughts on what has happened, as having a grown up Daughter of our own and listening to her dad saying for years ?if anyone ever harms her? what he would and would not do to them.
Then speaking to my brother and other male members of the family and friends, all of them have made similar statements about the father , I might also add that they have all said how you can see the mother fading in front of you every time she is on TV.
I don?t want to start an other argument on MN but just wondered if anyone else had thoughts like this.
I have a close friend who?s daughter went missing just over two years ago (believed murdered) and her body has never been found, I have watched my friend disintegrate in front of my eye?s and there is nothing this family haven?t? done to try and trace their daughter, until now they still have not found her she was 25 years of age when she went missing.

niceglasses · 22/05/2007 17:12

HARD HATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MellowMa · 22/05/2007 17:14

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