To feel incredibly sad over treatment of the slenderman attempted murder girls

[Carollocking]

So I watched the documentary early this morning and just can't stop thinking about the 2 girls.
I understand what they did totally and they've never once denied what they did either.
I just feel so very sad that a so called compassionate society would treat as they are.
Of course it was wrong but they need help and love and care and proper treatment,not to be put on trial as adults 2 years after the offence with a chance of anything upto 65 years In prison.
I already have a low opinion on the USA in general and this lowers it more to feel it's terrible to treat them as they are.
I think about if it was my eldest girl and yes she knows right and wrong but no girl her age thinks about consequences thinks about things at all as an adult will.
I think the justice system they are been put through is very sick and twisted.also makes me wonder if they were of rich parents this may not be as it is now.
If they had been allowed to be tried as juveniles they would be out of prison at 18 but could still be monitored fully as needed. That would still be 6 years in prison. For a child 6 years is An entire life to them.

Nothing sarcastic about not wanting to repeat myself a thousand times and since all you keep talking If is the actual crime it's getting pretty boring

Talking of

No not agree with me we sll are entitled to our opinions just that hardly anyone has replied to my actual post. All they've done is talk of the actual crime

It's repeated tonight on sky Atlantic at 9pm
Beware the slenderman

They have.

Your question "To feel incredibly sad over treatment of the slenderman attempted murder girls"?

overwhelming response - people don't agree that you should feel sad and that the girls knew what they did so the sentencing is not felt to be harsh. Posters would not like to see them given 'love and care and treatment' and be out at 18.

Thanks hippie.

American justice is horrendous. They keep people on Death Row for decades, and then find out they are innocent after all. I didn't see the documentary, but remember the case and have just looked it up; one of the 12 year olds was shackled in court. In many cases the defence lawyers are so poor that the defendant doesn't stand a chance. I don't consider that any country that has the death penalty can be said to be civilised.

I agree Eddiemairswife I'm not intrested in aruguing if they did or didn't do this,they did and haven't denied doing so it's the circus around any kind of case like this,which results in this case of them not getting treatment etc when needed. And of course money is the major player in USA court system more than lots countries anyway.
My post was simply I don't agree with how treated and that wouldn't make a difference if they murdered 200 people or robbed a house or any other crime.

They tried to kill her as an offering to Slenderman who they believed was an actual, real thing.

That belief in itself points to some serious mental health issues or a major lack of maturity/judgement which would back up the arguement for them to be tried as children.

Possum. Exactly my thoughts

And when watch one the girls in the videos growing up she did some pretty odd things that never was picked up upon till now

I don't agree. As for help and treatment,the have been diagnosed,treatment offered etc. What more do you want? For them to be released on a pi ky promise they won't do it again? To hope they'll take their meds(which one girl already had refused to do) and won't have another episode?
If it was a spur of the moment/anger induced things,i would maybe be inclined to agree. But they premeditated that murder in detailed,they picked a victim and only by humongous luck they didn't get away with it and their victim survived.

One of the girls (Morgan) has been diagnosed with schizophrenia. She needs professional help. No one is claiming she should be walking the streets but we realised a pretty long time ago that locking people up doesn't magically cure mental illness. She is currently being held in a secure hospital and should probably stay there.

The other girl is a more debatable case for me.

I'm with you carollocking.

They are children, as were the two boys who killed Jamie Bulger. Children think differently to adults and this si particularly the case with abused and disturbed children. We treat adults who are mentally ill and commit crimes with compasion and children should be treated with understanding and care too.
Compassion isn't a zero sum game. Caring for the perpetrators does not diminish care for and about the victim(s) and their family and friends.

Exactky that,compassion and care dosent mean you agree with there crime it just means you are in my opinion a decent human being

It's all very well and good saying they just need a hug and to be loved before they are sent back out to rejoin the human race, but how would people feel if either of them went on to commit other crimes?
Would you want your kids at uni with them? (if say they were released at 18)
It's not just about them, it's about society.
I'm firmly in the "Throw away the key' camp.

Would you think the same if it happened to your family?

Let them rot in jail

Carol could you hand on heart 100% say that in 6 years,10 whatever these girls will be safe in society? That they would never hurt someone again? Who's responsibility should it be if they do? Who's head should fall? And what about the potential victim?

I would yes,as I believe in compassion and decency and no I'm not religious either before someone says it.

Who's to say anyone is safe ? I'd in fact say no one is safe as pushed to a limit I believe we all will cross the line so should we all be in prison. So To me that's a crazy question. And I don't remember saying they should be out in any set time I said they need the care and compassion and treatment if that takes 5 10 or 20 years it does. But to leave in prison forever and forget is just beyond crazy to me and no help to anyone involved.

I watched the documentary in the week, and it has been going around in my head too.

Obviously, I feel incredibly sad for the victim, and the horrors she has been through.

But I can see how the two girls were suffering from some incredibly disordered thinking, and wasn't surprised at all that they were diagnosed with serious mental health disorders.

Because I have worked with hundreds of twelve year olds, and have older children of my own, and I have never met one who would believe that Slenderman was a real character. Twelve year olds are way past that stage. They might enjoy the scares but no way would they think that they were being stalked by him, or that their families would be killed if they didn't commit this crime, nor would they literally set off afterwards to walk to a fictional mansion in a forest.

The fact that they were both ill makes far more sense. If one of them had had good mental health, it would probably have balanced out the intensity, but with both of them believing the stories and supporting each other's beliefs, I can see how this happened.

I agree Scappy Molly. I teach teenagers with social, emotional and mental health problems and none of them would believe that slenderman was real. These girls must be very unwell.
Morgan apparently thinks she and Bella are still friends.

I am not normally touched by something like this,I have my opinions of course but I just normally would watch something and move on,something about this just has not stopped me thinking,I've read maybe a hundred reports on it too now and I still have it in my mind totally,
And your right my girl of simmillar age just dosent belive these kind things yes enjoys things in fun but like santa which comes up in the documentary she totally still believed at 12 the tooth fairy also etc etc and not questioning it she believed it totally without question.