It was mainly the educated/qualified who voted remain ? Poll please

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While watching this morning's Eu debates an argument was put forward
that it was mainly the educated/qualified in the large cities like London
Edinburgh and Brighton voting to remain as they were the most mobile/
more likely to be moving to Europe for jobs etc
This is not necessarily this poster's view but it does seem these places
have more "knowledge "jobs than the provinces So I would like these
degree holding Mmnetters to disclose whether there is any truth in this?

Two postgrads and PhD. Remain.

Why? I study Politics and Economics. Can't see any way leaving can end well.

Degree, and postgrad.

I voted Leave.

DH and I both post-grad degrees.
Think most of my colleagues/former colleagues, with degrees/higher degrees voted remain.
Living in London.

My family

DH - no degree - Baby boomer old gimmer - REMAIN
Me - no degree - Baby boomer old gimmer - REMAIN
DD PhD - REMAIN
DS - BScHons - REMAIN

DH and I voted remain for our DCs and our DGS'a futures.

Degree - Remain

Family unit - remain.

BA, MA, MSc and PHD held between us.

Nah, pile of crap argument I'm sick of seeing.
Being poor isn't an excuse to ve xenophobic and racist.
I'm from a lower middle class background but can't work due to disabilities, am absolutely terrified, as anyone vulnerable should be.
I do not get it. They don't like the current Tory Eton boy government, understandably, so vote to...give them more power...WTF?!

Yy brokengirl I don't get it either.

The quality of a degree has for a long time now been debated. Other than the core professional degrees, many are in fact training by another name. Or indoctrination.

Both dh and I have degrees and were strongly in the remain camp. My siblings all have degrees and they voted remain (the only political stance we have ever agreed on). Every single one of my friends who have degrees voted remain. Most of my friends without degrees voted remain. In fact I know of only one friend who voted leave, (no degree) but to be blunt she hasn't got a scooby about politics, thinks Boris Johnson is 'really nice' and doesn't like going abroad because it's all 'a bit different'.

By my little limited unscientific survey, anyone who voted leave is clearly bonkers.

The majority voted Leave.

Therefore either MN represents a disproportionate section of the populace, hence all these posters saying 'i don't know anyone who voted leave' really? Or do you just know a tiny, non diverse section of people?

Among friends, colleagues, family who have discussed their vote, it's about 50/50. Not everyone I know has expressed how they voted. Understandable given some of the shitty comments bandied about.

Personally I'm proud I voted leave, and believe that when we look back on this in 10, 20 years or more, it will be clearly perceived as the right decision.

The majority voted Leave.

It wasn't a majority of the population - just a (very small) majority of those who cared enough to cast a vote.

Therefore either MN represents a disproportionate section of the populace, hence all these posters saying 'i don't know anyone who voted leave' really? Or do you just know a tiny, non diverse section of people?

The reality is that many people have a fairly restricted social circle that looks a lot like them, demographically. My own social circle is very much not representative of the UK: immigrants are very overrepresented in my social group, as are academics and other people with graduate and post-graduate qualifications, and people with young children. Since young people, graduates and those with a recent family history of migration are among the least likely to have voted leave, it's not surprising that my friends are all remain voters.

Two degrees - remain.
Dh - no uni education but self employed - remain.
The only person I know who voted leave is v young and unemployed.

Degree + post grad = remain
DH - same

Going purely on my Facebook newsfeed, your musings are unanimously correct, op.

The quality of a degree has for a long time now been debated. Other than the core professional degrees, many are in fact training by another name. Or indoctrination.

This is true. I know plenty of(mostly young) people who have degrees but are by no means of superior intelligence to many older people who do not. Neither do I consider them to be better educated, more well read or more politically aware than most people without degrees.

I think the 'educated people mostly voted Remain' and 'uneducated people mostly voted Leave' argument is rather simplistic and can be explained in part by the fact that young people voted Remain and ^older people voted Leave. In the last 20 years there has been the most enormous shift in the number of people going to university so if you look at the number of degree holders among the over 50's and compare it to the number in the under 30's you will get your answer.

I think it's a bit of a red herring and says very little about the intelligence of many voters.

That said, I don't doubt that plenty of working class, poorly educated, possibly quite thick, impoverished and disenfranchised people who blame immigration (and especially recent high levels of immigration) for everything and can't see past 'brown people get all the council houses' voted Leave.

But it is overly simplistic and patronising to simply state that uneducated people voted to leave and educated people voted to remain.

Yes, Lord Ashcroft's poll of voters showed that more graduates were Remainers so the OP is correct. Also more middle class people and more younger people.
Older people, the working class and the less educated were more likely to vote to Leave.

Weekend think youve hit the nail square on the head.

Of the ten or so people I know definitely who voted Remain, only two have degrees.
I only know two people who voted Leave, and they did so because they find Boris Johnson an amusing character. Neither of them have degrees either or two brain cells to rub together

Thora I seriously doubt anyone voted Leave purely because they find Boris amusing.

But the...er...beauty....of democracy is that we allow people of all levels of intelligence and none to vote for whatever reason they like, for whomever they like and to hell with the consequences. Until we remove democracy we have to live by the results of it.

And actually, we have Tony Blair and Gordon Brown to thank for this. There are many reasons why so many people are dissatisfied with the EU but it has undoubtedly become mostly about uncontrolled immigration and the effects of that, and the fear of what will happen if it carries on in the same vein.

If the people who held all the power had listened 15 years ago, and then 10 years ago to some of the very real concerns of working class people perhaps we wouldn't be staring Brexit in the face now. Whether we agreed with them or not is not really the point is it? In a democracy you need to listen to the people, even the Stupids and the Racists, and find some level of compromise to appease them and give them at least some of what they want, even if what they want smacks of protectionism, racism or xenophobia on your opinion.

That level of not listening and dismissing people on the basis of being thick and racist lost Labour the last two general elections, and this is Leave result is a hangover from that, I think. There is a sense of 'you've been warned, you've been warned, don't push us too far, don't, don't, don't...shit. You did it. Now look what you've done. And now you need to clear up the mess.'

Maybe not, they may have had deeply researched reasons they don't admit to. That's the reason they tell people anyway.

Leave. Degree and masters.

Did that blow your theory out of the water?

Degree and post grad - Remain. However, I'm in Scotland so part of a majority vote.

Everyone at my work and on my Facebook appear to be fiercely Remain.

Could be education, could be being Scottish.

Remain voter. Degree and under 50, so fit the profile