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It was mainly the educated/qualified who voted remain ? Poll please

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concertplayer · 24/06/2016 06:59

While watching this morning's Eu debates an argument was put forward
that it was mainly the educated/qualified in the large cities like London
Edinburgh and Brighton voting to remain as they were the most mobile/
more likely to be moving to Europe for jobs etc
This is not necessarily this poster's view but it does seem these places
have more "knowledge "jobs than the provinces So I would like these
degree holding Mmnetters to disclose whether there is any truth in this?

OP posts:
Karmicgeelovething · 24/06/2016 13:48

Postgrad, Remain. Husband, City financial Servs senior level, voted leave.

Beevor · 24/06/2016 13:50

Degree and PG - remain, DH the same. DC (17 and 14 so no vote) would have voted remain

ItsLikeRainOnYourWeddingDay · 24/06/2016 13:59

Degree. Professional job. Remain.

winkywinkola · 24/06/2016 14:00

BA, PG Dip and MSc.

Voted remain.

Very concerned.

BumbleNova · 24/06/2016 14:15

I think Teacher is right. the people who voted remain are (largely) those that are doing well. people who are struggling and desperate for change voted out.

among my social circle inc all of FB - there is only one leave. all professional degree educated and london. I think Londoners should feel particularly hard done by.

BuntyBlue · 24/06/2016 14:21

No degrees but managed to come to the decision to vote remain anyway.

waitingforsomething · 24/06/2016 14:22

Degree and postgrad- remain. I don't know anyone Personally that voted leave.

WitteryTwittery · 24/06/2016 14:28

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TempsPerdu · 24/06/2016 14:29

Me - degree (in Modern Languages as it happens!), PGCE, postgrad, teacher/writer

DP - degree, works in IT/web design
Both voted Remain
Almost all friends/close acquaintances/colleagues voted Remain (know one or two who were for Brexit)

'Working class made good' parents voted for Brexit.

Divides quite neatly along class/education lines imo.

chilledmonday · 24/06/2016 14:30

Degree and postgrad - remain. Jeremy Vine called it a "victory for the white van man" Shock

TempsPerdu · 24/06/2016 14:32

Oh, and my parents aren't stuggling - both retired, lovely house in suburban N London, gold-plated pensions, private healthcare, and they rang me this morning to inform me they were off shopping 'to spend your inheritance'. As far as I can see their votes were influenced by xenophobia, nostalgia and too much exposure to the Daily Mail.

notamummy10 · 24/06/2016 14:33

Studying a degree here, also part of the 75% (18-24 year olds) that voted remain. I voted remain for several reasons: for opportunities after I graduate, the Erasmus study aboard programme (it may be affected) and to give potential EU students the chance to study over here. If you take a look at the Top 25 universities in the world, the only EU country in the table is the UK.

My lecturers (History) recently went to a conference in Germany and even the lecturers from EU universities made a comment about the History programme at my uni is structured! That surely has to mean something.

I also voted for those who were unable to (e.g. the under 18's) so they had their political voice heard through mine. It isn't fair on the younger generations who can't vote/have their say, they're the ones who are going to be affected the most!! I lastly voted remain as someone who I've looked up to when I was younger is having her first child in a matter of days (she's due any day now) and I wanted her daughter to grow up in a nice society.

I guess that's why I'm angry, upset, scared and anxious about what's happened. I have no idea what my future will now look like. Sad

Wait4nothing · 24/06/2016 14:39

Msci & Pgce - remain
Dh - Beng Msci Mphil - remain

All but 2 people who vocalised their votes on my fb were remain - both who were leave don't have degrees. Quite shocked really.

The eu funded my dh's Mphil and enabled him to work in a multinational company. Bit worried now!

KeyserSophie · 24/06/2016 14:39

I don't think it's as simple as rich and educated= in, poor and poorly educated=leave, but I think it's a factor. I am British but don't currently live in the UK. I'm not sure whether this disqualifies me from an opinion, or makes it easier to see things because I'm at a bit of a distance and it's easier to see change if you only visit periodically. Anyway, here's my thoughts-

I feel that over the last 20 years or so, a large percentage of the electorate has essentially been disenfranchised by both the main parties. By trying to appeal to a broader electorate, Blair lost the genuine working classes and the Tories obviously didn't do much to get them back. Neither party has been prepared to engage on the subject of immigration, which was a huge mistake. You have to engage, not dismiss. Both parties have pursued a very globalised and London-centric policy platform. Culturally, I also feel that the political and intellectual elites have become increasingly sneery about "ordinary people", for want of a better word- there's something wrong with you if you just want a quiet and uneventful life, living up the road from your mum, working at the car plant and playing 5 a side on Saturdays. The Labour party, which is supposed to be the champion of the working classes seems to have spent most of today on FB slagging them off (and then they wonder why they lost the last election- anyway, I digress). In short, there are a lot of people in the UK who feel (quite legitimately) that they do not have a stake in the status quo, so why the fuck shouldn't they take a punt on something else? They feel they have nothing to lose.

I guess basically I can't understand why everyone in the UK is so surprised by this outcome unless they never set foot outside the M25. Didn't the Labour election defeat in 2015 and the high UKIP poll suggest this might happen?

It's disenfranchisement. One of the parties needs to bring these people back into the fold of mainstream politics.

Hastalapasta · 24/06/2016 14:43

Degree, remain.
DH pHd remain.
Might be something in it, but probably notGrin

CookieDoughKid · 24/06/2016 14:44

My town , my 4000 community with a strong Facebook group. The remaining voters very outspoken, articulate, quoting lots of facts, stats and arguments across a broad range of impacting issues from Education to economy to science funding to free EU movement . The leave voters also outspoken but only quoting immigration and job losses as their quips with nothing else to back up their reasons. Sorry but in my community it is a clear trend as to which group has done their research. I can only speak from the vocal groups that have spoken out in my town

GahBuggerit · 24/06/2016 14:50

Chartered Professional

voted leave, clearly im lying about my education Hmm

WeekendAway · 24/06/2016 14:50

I think it probably was a vote that was largely divided along educational lines but not anywhere to the extent that many people on MN would have you believe. I think it doesn't so much reflect how thick or racist people vote as how people who feel downtrodden and ignored vote. And also plenty of other people who aren't downtrodden, poorlay educated, or ignored but who understand why those who are feel the way they do.

Mistigri · 24/06/2016 16:19

All the pre referendum research pointed to the most educated voters being primarily remain.

FWIW, I have a post grad qualification and would have voted remain if I wasn't exercising my right of free movement. On my FB feed - mostly graduates - there appears to have been not a single leave voter. Ditto among my colleagues. Even the couple of people who I thought might be quiet leavers turn out to be strong remain voters.

Mistigri · 24/06/2016 16:23

And of course it's not simple - my father who had a high up job in banking voted leave. He's not ignorant at all, though he is old (the other fault line along which voting split).

I think that pre vote research suggested that 7 out of 10 graduates were remain voters. Remain that among my parents generation, only a small minority of people obtained university degrees.

windygales · 24/06/2016 16:32

Degree-remain

NeverNic · 24/06/2016 16:34

My in laws voted leave as did a few of my neighbours - all professional, degree holders, but apart from my BIL all are retired / semi-retired. I would say that it's likely that those in the remain camp with degrees probably hold jobs that would be impacted by leaving the EU, or may be in a position to understand the country's relationship with the EU and its member states a little better because of the job or perhaps their professional qualification.

Mistigri · 24/06/2016 16:39

There was a private exit poll conducted by Lord Ashcroft which looked at the demographics.

  • People under 45 voted remain
  • People with degrees voted remain (by a big margin, 67:33)
  • People who are not white British voted remain (also by a big margin)
Mistigri · 24/06/2016 16:39

Sorry, link for above: lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/

NeverNic · 24/06/2016 16:48

For clarity I do not have a degree and voted remain. I did however grow up in London, though now live in Kent (for which immigration is a very real and relevant issue - though not one I personally am concerned by), but do have a job that will be negatively impacted by leaving the EU.

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