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Alpha Men Wanting Clever Working Wives

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Judy1234 · 14/01/2007 14:55

This makes sense. You want someone you can talk to for the next 40 years.

January 14, 2007

Alpha males forsake the trophy wife
Roger Dobson
THE allure of the trophy wife may be fading. Academics say they have found the first evidence that successful British males increasingly prefer a spouse with a high-powered job to one who stays at home with the children.

They reached their conclusion after comparing men?s incomes with the number of hours women worked. In the 1980s, the higher a man?s salary, the lower the average number of hours worked by his wife.

Now the situation has reversed. A professional man?s salary is 5.5% higher for every 1,000 hours a year worked by his wife, according to the study.

Experts welcomed the findings as evidence that male acceptance of female success is becoming widespread. But others said the burgeoning numbers of ?power couples? may represent a new elite opening up a gap with the rest of the population.

?This is the first strong evidence of a turnaround in the link between wives? hours and husbands? earnings for any country,? said Paul Carlin, the economics professor who led the study, to be published in the journal Labour Economics. ?But there is one potential downside. It could contribute to the widening income distribution gap in Britain because you are doubling up on the earning power.?

The findings suggest couples such as Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta-Jones or the Labour husband-and-wife ministers Ed Balls and Yvette Cooper, in which the wife has a successful career in her own right, are now typical of professional classes.

The stay-at-home wife may become an endangered species, although a court case last year showed she can still fight back.

Melissa Miller won £5m from her former husband Alan, a top fund manager, in the Lords hearing. His barrister contrasted the ?wife who works hard looking after the children? with Melissa, the ?Harvey Nichols wife?, at which point Lady Justice Hale cut in and asked: ?Which does the husband more value, the trophy wife or the workaday wife? The trophy wife, of course.?

The new findings were backed by David Rosenblatt, 44, from Liverpool, head of Genie-Tech International, a beauty treatment maker. He said being able to discuss business was an important part of his marriage to Carole, also 44, who runs the city?s OC Spa. ?If you want to be successful nowadays, it is important to be in a working partnership,? said Rosenblatt.

Dan Church, 32, from Surrey, co-founder of the City headhunt-ers Hydrogen Group, said his wife Olivia Stockdale?s ?drive and ambition? were what attracted him. Stockdale runs Iberian International, a property consultancy. ?Some men might find it a threat, but men in general don?t expect women to give up careers any more,? said Church.

Carlin, an economics professor at Purdue University in Indi-ana, carried out his research using national data on age, earnings, education, type of job and other factors to analyse how ?matching? of couples had changed over two decades.

For the early 1980s, Carlin and two academics from Swan-sea University found evidence of ?assortative mating? ? men marrying women with similar features such as height, education and sense of humour.

Earnings were the one area where this consistently failed to hold true. The factors blamed include the need to take time off for childbearing, discrimination at work and the convention in which a successful man?s wife often gave up her career to ?sup-port? her husband. This ?wage penalty? is what has changed.

The pay gap between the sexes fell from 45% in 1970 to 25% in 2002. Employment rate for married mothers was about 50% in the early 1980s but is now nearer 70%.

Anastasia de Waal, of the think tank Civitas, said Carlin?s findings were encouraging, but warned: ?Concentration of high power and long hours within the same couples will concern those worried about parenting time or widening income inequality.?

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Aderyn · 14/01/2007 18:40

"Did I say in my original post it was anything to do with stay at home mothers? It's a brains issue I think. People of similar IQ and probably similar looks and backgrounds etc probably do better together."

Xenia - the original article doesn't even imply (actually, maybe it does try to implythat the partners of the high earning men were stupid or had a low iq. It states that in the 1980s, men were marrying women of similar features, height, education etc.. the only difference between them was their earnings because it was more normal for women to stop working if they married a high earning man. That discrepancy in earnings is narrowing now, 20 years on, because women aren't stopping work and/or are aspiring to have careers of their own even after marriage.

It does not state that the women the men in the 80s were marrying were bimbos and of low IQ

Greensleeves · 14/01/2007 18:41

I think your thread title may be at the root of the "misunderstanding", Xenia

I agree with you though - any MNer (SAHM or otherwise) who is still able to get riled by your remarks probably does need therapy

Monkeytrousers · 14/01/2007 18:44

Hi Greeny , why's that?

NotAnOtter · 14/01/2007 18:47

oh Greeny thank god for you!

Monkeytrousers · 14/01/2007 18:48

That is true Aderyn; liek attracts like - but isn't that the secret of compatability?

Monkeytrousers · 14/01/2007 18:49

Has Xenia been outed as a wit?!

Greensleeves · 14/01/2007 18:51

Because she's barking, MT

foxinsocks · 14/01/2007 18:52

do women really choose men the same height as them? can't say I've been out with anyone who is even that close to the same height as me

paulaplumpbottom · 14/01/2007 18:53

I only dated men taler than me. I'm 5'4 dh is 6'3

motherinferior · 14/01/2007 18:53

I've not noticed it. Mind you, you don't get many blokes my height. Not ones aged over 11, anyway.

foxinsocks · 14/01/2007 18:57

lol - yes, it's a load of bollocks isn't it

foundintranslation · 14/01/2007 18:59

dh is 5'2" - and 31 yrs old
(I'm 5'1")

foxinsocks · 14/01/2007 19:01

do you have similar features and education as well FIT? perhaps you are the perfect example of 'assortative mating' whatever that may be!

motherinferior · 14/01/2007 19:01

I am somewhere non-specific around the five foot mark.

paulaplumpbottom · 14/01/2007 19:03

How tall is your DH or DP?

Judy1234 · 14/01/2007 19:03

They have done studies - people tend to marry people of similar looks - both ugly, both middle of the road, both pretty. Or both fat, both thin. Or both super clever or both thick as a plank. Both into sports or both lazy as anything. and heights too. Traditional Indian and other match makers always try to match heights. Oviously there are exceptions like Bernie Ecclestone and Tom Cruise. Last month I had dinner with someone who was 6 foot 8.

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motherinferior · 14/01/2007 19:03

oooh, five seven or suchlike. He's the shortest bloke I've been out with.

NotAnOtter · 14/01/2007 19:05

he didn't marry you then?

paulaplumpbottom · 14/01/2007 19:06

You know Xenia I can't think of a single couple I know who fits your posts.

motherinferior · 14/01/2007 19:06

Actually I do find it very interesting that DP and I have similar ethnic backgrounds. It's very relaxing.

NotAnOtter · 14/01/2007 19:08

Dp and i both tallish - me 5' 8" him 6'2" - both brought up by father - both at Liverpool University - there ends the superficial similarity.

I am obviously dumb and fat as I am a SAHM and he is a Shit hot surgeon.....

Judy1234 · 14/01/2007 19:09

There will be some. People tend to date people a bit like them for good reasons although may be that's foolish. It's a problem on recruitment that trend to hire people like you which can mean you don't get the best people. Either you're gay and everyone in the department ends up being gay as you hired them or white public school or all female and then you exclude some good people. I don't think sexual attraction though should follow the same HR rules and if I only find clever men sexy and good to talk to I'm not going to change my own preferences.

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paulaplumpbottom · 14/01/2007 19:09

I think you have to have a bitof both in a reationship. Similarities and diffrences.

foxinsocks · 14/01/2007 19:11

I'm 1.66m and I think dh is 1.83m - most of my exes were over 6 foot. Don't think we have vast amounts in common (certainly nothing at all in terms of looks) but we have similar pastimes I guess.

Monkeytrousers · 14/01/2007 19:11

Think the general rule of sexual dimorphism relates to weight and specific differences such as wide shoulders in man and breasts in women.

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