AFTER THE PIT BULL THREAD ADVICE NEEDED DESPERATLY...

[kittylette]

i need advice,

BIL and SIL have a rotweiller/alsation cross, its huge,

theyve just had a baby son

weve told them the dangers (shouldnt have to really) but they sent a pic of the tiny baby lay across the front paws of the dog

i have two sons and havent visted them for 2 years because i wont allow them near the dog

in my pre-kids days the dog attacked me, tried to bite me BIL had to physically beat the dog to subdue it away from me,

its not a nice dog

im fear for the safety of my nephew

should i phone someone?

social serices?

i dont want to but how would i feel if something happened?

when you first meet the dog, you have to sit low down on the floor with your arms crossed and not give it eye contact

surely thats not right?

sjould a dog like that be near a bay?

they say is soft as anytning, its a big baby

If you want I can email you as if I'm just a friend you have mentioned the picture to and put in my fears for your nephew and experiences I've had with the dog biting my sister etc and you could show them that instead of the thread - or do you think they would just dismiss it and say that their dog isn't like that?

A dog that was abused as a puppy and it then beaten and p's itself to stop it from an attack is a very very damaged dog

they would zepher,

they think hes soft - hes been around lots of little animals - they basically live in a zoo - snakes, guini pigs, hamsters, parrots kittens ect and has never harmed them - so they think hes safe,

but would you email in that manner so i can do that - it may not make a difference but it may

if i report them theyll never forgive me, and shes my only RL friend

I don't mean that to sound that it's damaged because of your BIL, I mean that it still has the damage from when it was a puppy.

[email protected] btw

Oh dear, this gets worse and worse.

You must feel a bit desperate Kitty.

oh i know, they dote on him - hed never hit him in normal circumstances of course - theyre real animal lovers

OMG!

after your last post i would report your BIL! whathe is doing is teaching it to be even more aggressive and will undoubtedly cause this animal to at some point or another turn on him.

i really dont wish to be a scare monger but my family have always kept dogs and always large breeds (bull mastiffs, German shepards, Boxers and a rotty) and so i have a very good insight to natural canine behaviour.

A dog if it feels threatened or scared may make an attempt to nip at you. if you remove yourself and it continues to try and bite then that is no longer a self defence reaction and simply aggression.

by your BIL beating the dog he is teaching it yet more pack mentality, he is the boss and as the dog stepped out of line he has to be chastised useing aggression.

the more and more you post the more i am convinced this is a SUN headlie waiting to happen.

Im sorry but you NEED to make sure something is done. i am more than happy to take the details and report them myself. that dog needs to be removed from your family immediatly for the safety of all concerned (including teh dogs)

why did you ask then - if your not going to do it?

yes of course, no problem. My email is [email protected]

You could then always say that the email you got from me is what made you call MIL with your concerns....

Do you go to any toddler groups or anything? I'm just trying to think of a way that it could be someone else who could have reported it so it doesn't look like it was you

i mean - re - read your first post.

did you expect answers to be " oh no, dog sounds fine to me."

no, he HAD to do that or it wouldve gotten to me, but thats not the point,

the point is he shouldnt have to have done that with a normal dog - and i thiank him for doing so - otherwise i wouldve had half a face!

The dog is on their BED

A baby of that size should not be placed at the feet of a chiuaua let alone a bloody huge animal like that which has been known to bite.

You said the dog was abused as a puppy. was the dog a rescue dog? if so you could call the kennels they took him from and inform them that they now have a child and you are concerned.
the home will have done personality tests and the chances are they will have only homed him with your family becasue they had no children. They are within their rights to do a follow up inspection and can remove the dog if they do not feel it has been properly cared for.

Your BIl ISN'T a true dog lover as if he were he would be responsible enough to read about breeding, learn about proper training and would certainly not beat a dog.

PLease Kitty you really need to do something. i know you dont wish to cause upset within yur family but at the end of the day your nephews safety must be more important than the feelings of your BIL/SIL.

What a beautiful, beautiful baby.

Let's hope he's a lucky one. He'll need to be.

Sorry was posting whlie you put your addy up - will email you.

Have they shown the picture to many people that know how the dog is? (ie you can't look at him when you come in)

can i just reliterate that hes NEVER beaten the dog - he only did it because he wouldnt back off, im sure you wouldnt have prefered he left it and it savaged me?

Mamazon's point is a very good one actually. You can call the place where e was rehomed from and they will be able to help....

they didnt get him from a home, just off someone who had taken it from the abuser

he could have grabbed teh dogs collar and placed him in a seperate room. there is never any need to beat a dog until it pisses the floor.

if he was a responsible owner the dog wouldn't be in a house with visitors if he couldn't control it.

I once fostered a dog that couldn't be rehomed yet as it was agressive. i knew that and if visitors came he had to be muzzled and shut away. He then had 12 months of intensive therapy before finally being rehomed with a very large but agraphobic man. just because this dog has behavioural problems doesn't mean it has t be put to sleep, but if something isn't done he will seriously maim or kill...there there will be no other option.

agree with everything mamazon has said,.

tiny baby

big aggressive biting dog

it;s a no-brainer

Well let's hope his reactions are as quick if the dog goes for the baby.

oh lordy, what a beautiful child... you forget that they're so tiny, don't you? you MUST act, kitty.

please dont have a go at me,

im just so torn

i OBVIOUSLY want to protect my nephew

but i dont want to break the family up - thats what would happen

i shouldnt be in this position, the babys mum and dad should have made this descison along time ago,

im so angry with them both

thanks zephyr