AFTER THE PIT BULL THREAD ADVICE NEEDED DESPERATLY...

[kittylette]

i need advice,

BIL and SIL have a rotweiller/alsation cross, its huge,

theyve just had a baby son

weve told them the dangers (shouldnt have to really) but they sent a pic of the tiny baby lay across the front paws of the dog

i have two sons and havent visted them for 2 years because i wont allow them near the dog

in my pre-kids days the dog attacked me, tried to bite me BIL had to physically beat the dog to subdue it away from me,

its not a nice dog

im fear for the safety of my nephew

should i phone someone?

social serices?

i dont want to but how would i feel if something happened?

when you first meet the dog, you have to sit low down on the floor with your arms crossed and not give it eye contact

surely thats not right?

sjould a dog like that be near a bay?

they say is soft as anytning, its a big baby

Bump for Kitty.

thankyou

im sat here shaking,

i was going to post the pic to show you but not sure if i should???,

im going to discuss it with DF and we are going to ring someone

do you think i should email BIL/SIL this thread?

so zepher (thankyou so much btw) i need to go to the police??

well done kitty.....good for you , you are bein g extremely responsible x

Not sure about showing them this thread tbh. Just do what you have to do to keep your Dn safe

Oh well done Kitty - thought for a second you were having second thoughts

The RSPCA lady said that because he has bitten/gone for you before, you have to go to your local police station and let them know and from there they will do something.

I'm certain you could stay anonymous - esp once you explain the fact that people have to get on the floor to get past him! Could be anyone reporting that.

If you are unsure then I'm more than happy to ring them just for some advice before you speak to them so you know what they will expect from you.

I'm not sure about emailing them the thread - you know what people are like about their pets!... unless you think it's the harsh kick up the bum they need...or will they just get arsey? Tricky one.

You are doing the right thing though, good on you

i dont know how to say it to them

should i ring and say 'ive been thinking'

or should i just report it, - they would 100% know its me, if not then my SIL would phone to discuss it and i couldnt lie

you dont have to get on the floor, but you have to sit low on th couch (not stand or be higher than him) cross your arms, make no movements or eye contact and let him sniff you till he leaves you alone, then you can move - but not suddenly

he went to bite me cause i patted him on the back from behind -

whats a toddler going to do?? - hell get eaten!

gosh, kitty, that is scary.....you are in such a predicamnet, but the safety of your nephew, and indeed any other child who goes near the dog, is paramount

i think the worrying things is that you need to be submissive, which makes the dog think he's in charge. the owners should be in charge, and if they're not the dog is difficult to discipline. good for you, kittylette, you couldn't live with yourself if something happened...

your relations are terribly irresponsible to have a dog like this and allow it to become the 'leader of the pack'.

When you ring them just say "I'm ringing to ask some advice about a relatives dog who I think may be a danger to their baby" and they'll ask you to explain why. Tell them that you are unsure about what to do about it and what action they could/would take.

I imagine that ultimately they will ask you if you want to go ahead and let them intervene, but just have a chat with them and see what they say.

Yikes, have just come across this.

I was trying to imagine the difficult position you were in and then I read your last post. Bloody hell you have to do something.

ive just rang my MIL (BILs mum)and explained about the pic,

she basically said theres nothing we can do, its stupid, but its out of our hands - its not worth us all falling out over,

now i phoned her for help - now i feel even worse, like shes TOLD me not to be interveining

and now ill be going against her

i think i made it worse

but there are things you can do..and it is your nephew;s welfare at stake

i'm afraid your MiL is wrong.

Could you say to your b-i-l that you were talking to a friend who is a veterinary nurse, and that they thought it was a disaster waiting to happen because the dog is so dominant..? (that would keep it from seeming that you are criticising them directly - that could make it awkward in the family)

... urge them to talk to professional about it, and if they show no interest, then get the police/RSPCA involved.

Scary.

if something happened, god forbid , to the baby, she;ll be wishing she;d have done sometihng

poor you kitty...

My God, I can't believe your relatives choose to be that submissive to a dog.

Couldn't they just take up S&M instead?

Bloody morons.

Do they not understand that they've made him the pack leader? Are they really so utterly uninformed?

That is a level of stupidity that is staggering. Sorry to go on about it, but I just can't get over it. How could they be so utterly, utterly stupid. And how can they be allowed to be in charge of a baby. If they're that stupid about their dog, what else are they stupid about? The mind boggles, really boggles.

Babies make very sudden movements, as he grows and starts crawling he is likely to try and pull himself up onto the dog, he will also be seen by the dog as a threat to his position within the pack.

This is a very dangerous animal.

You need to phone your BIL/SIL and explain that you are worried. say that following from all these dog attacks in the news it has made you think about their dog and you have some serious concerns. ask them to call the Battersea dogs home advice line. they will be bale to give some advice as to how best to dealw ith the dogs behaviour and will be honest with them about the safety of their child.

If they get shirty then im sorry but you really must make it official and report the bite to the police. explain that it was some time ago but that your doing it as you fear for the safety of your nephew.

theyve had councillors out for the dog because it was abused as a puppy - beaten - tail docked to look more like the rotweiller part of it breeding

so they always talk about packs and stuff- which scares me too

Can you get them some information from the kennel club about submissiveness/ pack behaviour?

This is really quite urgent - that baby could be attacked at any time, with such a dangerous dog as its companion. Would your idiot SIL leave the baby unsupervised with the dog?

it didnt actully bite me, it turned its head and fully attemted to, then tried to lunge at me after it had missed,

bil tried to restrain it - it was still coming at me,

then he beat it, again and again - so much so (to refrain it
0 that it actully pissed - but was still coming forwards