is it really possible that Donald trump could be president????? [Part 2]

[claig]

From now on the race becomes winner take all. If Trump wins Florida on March 15, it is probably all over.

'The Republican Party now has 14 days to stop Trump'

www.vox.com/2016/3/2/11144812/super-tuesday-results-donald-trump-wins

"Trump’s appeal on the stump is a rejection of the conservative establishment – CPAC is the personification of it, or at least those who seek to join it. The event is filled with GOP operatives and college students who aspire to become GOP operatives."

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/05/ted-cruz-cpac-straw-poll-win-donald-trump-young-voters

Cruz is creepy. At least with Trump you know what you are getting. I think you are better with the devil you know.

The Florida Republican primary is winner-take-all. The party leadership changed it to that in 2014 to help Jeb Bush. I'm sure they are deeply regretting that change now.

I don't think anyone knows what they're getting with Trump. Even him may not know, as he drifts about so much and contradicts himself, and forgets so easily previous positions. :)

Even in relation to Iraq, I saw a clip yesterday when he claimed he was the only of the Republican candidates that had opposed the war from the start, even though there is no evidence whatsoever of him opposing anything, on the contrary, so even if he kept his opinion to himself he was still lying about publicly opposing it.

Yes, no one really knows what he will do. The media keep asking him who his advisers are and up to now, he has batted them off. They are desperate to surround him by the right advisers. At the last debate, he mentioned a former president of the Council on Foreign Relations. But no one really knows if that is right either.

They are terrified of Trump because they think he will change absolutely everything and end lots of what has been going on.

The best bet to what he is likley to do is probably listen to the people supporting his campaign and see what they are saying. That is probably why there is so much panic among the global elite.

I agree Lweji. I have a much better idea of what Ted Cruz would try to do if he were president than what Trump would do. Cruz is scary and his evangelical beliefs mean that he is really backward on social issues. I'm not ready, though, to say that I would prefer Trump, not as long as Trump is arguing that US laws should be changed to allow torture of enemy combatants and not as long as he is dog-whistling to his racist supporters.

People supporting Trump's campaign?
As in a former head of the KKK?
If we are going to go by them, we still end up confused or very worried indeed.

Not that I'd prefer Cruz or any other Republican, but at least people are more likely to know what they're voting for. And should they vote for Cruz, then it's because people want a conservative. Whereas for Trump, his voters are being tricked into thinking he is for what they want, which seems to be very different things between different voters.

'As in a former head of the KKK? '

He hasn't endorsed Trump and he doesn't talk to Trump so he doesn't know what Trump is really thinking. The nearest thing to understanding what Trump will do to the global elite is to listen to what people who actually talk to him and advise or have advised him say. That is why the media is desperate to find out who is advising him and the bigwigs are desperate to put forward advisers that they are comfortable with.

'Whereas for Trump, his voters are being tricked into thinking he is for what they want, which seems to be very different things between different voters.'

The people at Trump rallies, the Trumpites, are comfortable with what they are getting, they want someone who is "on their side", is "anti establishment", is not "politically correct", who will "bring jobs back" and who is going to "break the furniture" and that is what they think Trump will do. It is also what the Republican elite think he will do, among other things that he will do, which is why they are petrified of him and want to stop him.

pretty much sums it up for me!

No he hasn't "endorsed" Trump:

"“Voting for these people, voting against Donald Trump at this point, is really treason to your heritage,” Duke said on the David Duke Radio Program. "I’m not saying I endorse everything about Trump. In fact, I haven’t formally endorsed him. But I do support his candidacy, and I support voting for him as a strategic action. I hope he does everything we hope he will do.”"
www.politico.com/story/2016/02/david-duke-trump-219777#ixzz428gVf4sl

This is worrying.

But how many Trump supporters talk to Trump? Does talking to him help? He talks a lot, but apart from putting down other candidates, and people he doesn't like, everything else tend to be meaningless buzz words.

"on their side" - whose side? Different people have different sides. What side is that?

"anti establishment" - but then some people claig at least claim being anti-human made climate change is anti-establishment, when the reverse is more likely to most people.

not "politically correct" - for some it may mean that he doesn't follow a political doctrine. For others it simply means he has racist and bigoted views (similar to theirs and different to the current "politically correct views")

"bring jobs back" - this is probably the only one that is clear, but much easier said than done.

"break the furniture" - what furniture? What does that mean? Break on which side? Of unregulated banking? Or on protection to the more vulnerable?

'But how many Trump supporters talk to Trump?'
Very few. I am talking more about advisers and confidantes.

'Does talking to him help?'
People have reported that it does

'"on their side" - whose side?
The side of ordinary people against the elites

"not "politically correct" - for some it may mean that he doesn't follow a political doctrine"
No it means what he always says "we are not going to be the stupid country anymore". He said when asked about who he intended to put in his cabinet "good people, not politically correct ones". As the woman interviewed by CNN in Las Vegas said when asked about what hse thought a Trump presidency would look like "all the politically correct people out, all the unpolitically correct people in". Basically a retrun to "common sense".

'"bring jobs back" - this is probably the only one that is clear, but much easier said than done.'
No it will be very easy when Trump tears up the globalists' trade deals like the TPP and TTIP etc.

'"break the furniture" - what furniture? What does that mean?'
It means when Trump goes to Washington, he will "break the furniture", he will shake things up so much that the donor class, the lobbyists, the special interests and the puppet politicians won't know what hit them because he will work for the American people and not for them.

The side of ordinary people against the elites

There isn't one side for the ordinary people. Ordinary people have many sides. From far left to far right.

What are his aids and confidants saying that clarifies anything at all?

Your posts, for example, are just as garbled as his "policies".

Your last post, for example, just rehashes the vague buzz words. There's nothing specific in it apart from recycling elites, establishment, shaking things up and so on.

'There isn't one side for the ordinary people. Ordinary people have many sides. From far left to far right. '

No, this is what the BBC says in an attempt to divide people by race etc. We are all the same, we all want the same things - prosperity, jobs, good healthcare and a good future. All of us have been swindled by the elites, the bankers, the politicians who flipped homes and took excess expenses and worrled on behalf of lobbyists or lied countries into wars.

As Mike Huckabee, former Governor of Arkansas and former Presidential candidate, said "this is a peaceful revolution, the people are rising" and they are taking power back from the elites who grew rich at public expense when American workers' wages are less now on average than they were 20 years' ago. The four words that Trump always says that the insiders fear the most are "not gonna happen anymore".

'What are his aids and confidants saying that clarifies anything at all?'

They are on youtube. They say he will destroy the globalists, he is taking America back from them, he will scrap the globalists' trade deals, he will end the wasteful wars, he will open up the readcted 28 pages of the 911 report, he will audit the Fed, there will be lots of indictments and people will be going to jail for what they have done.

'Your last post, for example, just rehashes the vague buzz words. There's nothing specific in it apart from recycling elites, establishment, shaking things up and so on.'

Because that is how Trump talks, that is what he says and that is why they fear him. They want to know specifics, but he declines to tell them,. they want to know who his advisers are, but he declines to say. He likes to keep them guessing, he keeps it vague but the people at Trump rallies know he is "on their side".

No, this is what the BBC says in an attempt to divide people by race etc.
WTAF?

We are all the same, we all want the same things - prosperity, jobs, good healthcare and a good future.
It may be, but we all have very different ideas on how best to achieve that.

'WTAF? '

Trump doesn't play identity politics. To Trump everyone is the same, they are all Americans and he will put America First. It is the left wing and politically correct BBC etc who focus on identities which divides the people who are really all united.

'It may be, but we all have very different ideas on how best to achieve that.'

Absolutely, and we live in a democracy so we can all choose. People are voting for Trump and Bernie in huge numbers, the entire establishment is being repudiated en masse.

As Robert Reich, former Secretary of Labor under Bill Clinton, said

"the establishment is dying"

That is why this is the most momentous political event in our lifetimes. It is dying and it is being "overthrown before our eyes" (as the fomer Governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee said). There is no event bigger than what we are witnessing which is why you cannot turn on a BBC news programme without seeing panicked members of the metropolitan elite decrying Trump and what is taking place. Everyone knows "the game is up", nothing will be the same again.

Here is Mike Huckabee who has stood for President several times and stood again this time but dropped out. He is the former Governor of Arkansas. He knows politics and the governrmnt and the establishment. He says it is "an overthrow of the government", "we are having somewhat of a political revolution".

Again, not addressing my comment in the least, but I'm not surprised. :)

Why would anyone seriiously think this rich man has the interests of ordinary people at heart?????

'Why would anyone seriiously think this rich man has the interests of ordinary people at heart?????'

Because of what he says. Just go on his twitter and read what he says. It is just like what ordinary people say, not like a politician. He is super rich and 69 years old, he is not climbing up the ladder like a "career politician", he doesn't get told what to do or say, he wants to go down in history as one of the best presidents America ever had and he wants to fix the country for the people.

The fact that the world's elite and most of its media are against him shows that he is with the people and that is why he gets the biggest crowds in history for a politician. People aren't stupid, they know how to spot Establishment fakes, and Trump isn't one which is why the fakes are all against him.

Because of what he says.

So, you believe what anyone says, just as long as he talks like folk do?

You must fall for every con around...

'So, you believe what anyone says, just as long as he talks like folk do?'

No, I follow events and speeches and actions over time, and I believe that Trump is for real in that he intends to work for the people instead of special interests and he intends to put America back as number one and put America First. He is negotiable, he is a negotiator and therefore he won't do everything he said, that was only the initial bargaining position.

'You must fall for every con around...'

I fell for Tony Blair in 1997, but I soon learned.

I thought you were claiming that Trump won't do the nonsense he says he will, anyway.

Are we now supposed to listen to him?

I fell for Tony Blair in 1997, but I soon learned.

Clearly not...

What exactly has he done, apart from political speeches, to put America first? And to improve the lives of ordinary people?

It certainly wasn't his University. Or luxury towers.