is it really possible that Donald trump could be president????? [Part 2]

[claig]

From now on the race becomes winner take all. If Trump wins Florida on March 15, it is probably all over.

'The Republican Party now has 14 days to stop Trump'

www.vox.com/2016/3/2/11144812/super-tuesday-results-donald-trump-wins

Why olivia?

Just relieved that there is still some sanity left in the US. Thank you Ohio, whilst I might not like your choice at all, at least you haven't entirely lost the plot.

Rubio still has a big influence in relation to his delegates.
If he supports Cruz, and if Kasich does too, Cruz could end up being nominated.
The main problem with the Republicans is that they haven't been able to gather behind only two candidates, which has allowed Trump wins of only 30% of the voters.
I can only imagine the negotiations and frustration behind the scenes there. It will be interesting to see if they do it now, or if somehow Trump gets the two on his side (or neutral). Maybe wave with a vice-presidency, as he needs, and said he does need, a politician who knows how to navigate the political scene (which is also ironic ).

Actually, I've just been looking up Kasich's policies, some of them are ok.

Cruz is one of those far right evangelicals who advocates the misleading "religious freedom,"
which just means freedom of the religious to oppress everyone else:
e.g. stopping abortion, rolling back gay rights.
Cruz keeps his nastiness about religion - and his lust for war - well hidden.
Trump doesn't bother hiding his nastiness.

If Trump doesn't end up with a majority of delegates, Kasich looks the least horrible choice, although he's more rightwing than he pretends.
Also he's another hardline anti-choice bastard.

If Trump does gain a majority, it would be very harmful to overthrow a democratic vote: if their votes get ignored, do those angry people just go away ? Or get angrier and more violent.

The Democrats are the strong favs in November anyway, whoever is the candidate in either party.

The Republicans started the primaries with an abysmal selection of candidates, pandering to the meanest instincts of their voters.
Trump just doesn't pretend he's not a bastard.
Anyone thinking this ?

You can't underestimate Trump. He won huge crossover votes from Democrats yesterday.

In North Carolina, turnout for Republicans was yuge. There are 700,000 more registered Democrats in North Carolina than Republicans, but Republicans polled 400,000 more votes than Democrats. Lots of Democrats switched to vote for Trump.

A Demccrat senator from Ohio was on CNN and she said there was huge Democrat crossover to Trump all across the industrial heartlands of Ohio with 1 in 15 Republican ballots being Democrats. She said they were running out of Republican ballots. She said Trump's message on jobs is getting through to blue collar workers who have been promised jobs for 30 years.

Everybody knows that the political class is "bought and paid for" and self-serving cronies of big money. When Trump really starts getting the word out, he could sweep up because he wants to fix America with real action, not talk and he wants to bring jobs back to Americans by scrapping the Wall Street candidates free trade deals.

If Blaie was "anxious" before, last night he was probably having kittens.

Because Trump, unlike the other drones, including that despicable Clinton woman, actually wants to dump the whole idea of an American empire and concentrate on getting America healthy and wealthy again.

I like his stance and flexibility on Syria, and as for the rest ? he's not saying anything that they aren't -- he's just not doing it with all the PR polish that they are.

"Michigan Shows Trump Could Redraw Electoral Map vs. Clinton"

Read more at: www.nationalreview.com/article/432528/donald-trump-michigan-win-shows-general-election-appeal
"Sixty-four electoral votes. That’s the sum of four Rust Belt states Romney lost: Pennsylvania (20), Ohio (18), Michigan (16), and Wisconsin (10).

Donald Trump says he can win back these states as the GOP nominee, a claim that’s audacious to say the least: Ohio has voted Democratic the past two presidential cycles; Michigan and Pennsylvania last went Republican in 1988; and Wisconsin hasn’t been carried by the GOP since 1984.

But if Tuesday’s primary results in Michigan are any indication, Trump, who has been underestimated at every turn of this campaign, should be taken seriously. Between his comfortable victory fueled by blue-collar white voters, and Hillary Clinton’s defeat thanks to her vulnerabilities with that same group, it’s possible that a November matchup between the two front-runners could drastically redraw the electoral map.

www.nationalreview.com/article/432528/donald-trump-michigan-win-shows-general-election-appeal

I don't know what to say to that Olivia! even if there were nothing else setting him apart his anti-Islamic rhetoric should surely be enough?

I agree with you BigChoc.
You are also right that the Democrats, overall seem to have the best chance to win, and as bad as Hillary may be, she is much less worse than the current Republican candidates.

For all the talk about getting along with foreign leaders, I doubt Trump would manage that, other than as show off, considering his current performance.
His solution for ISIS is ridiculous. It's little more (or less) than what is happening now with not so brilliant results.
He can turn inside, but the world is not so much like that anymore. Forgetting the empire is just a natural consequence of what has been happening with emerging economies turning to the outside too. And any president has realised by now, hopefully, that veni, vidi does not work that easily into vici.

His stance on the middle east and north Africa seems to relate very much to what the US can profit from them. As in, no point invading unless we can keep their oil. This is imperialist thinking.

It was obvious for anyone who understands the Oxbridge type political class spin that is used by the elites all over the world to fool the people that the heckler in the crowd at Kasich's victory speech who had a Trump "Make America Great Again" hat on, was planted in the audience to make Establishment Kasich look good and Blair like.

They are desperate and are trying every PR and student union wonkish spin trick their teenage advisers can dream up in order to stop Trump. The entire world elite is praying that they succeed. "Anxious" doesn't get near to describing their utter panic.

'Don't worry, he won't get beaten up at our event': Rubio jokes about Trump violence as 'Comedians' posing as protesters interrupt both his and Kasich's speech

Two supposed protesters interrupted John Kasich and Marco Rubio's speeches after Tuesday's primary

They are believed to be comedians are believed to be posing as Donald Trump supporters

One was thrown out of Marco Rubio's speech in Florida as the candidate joked 'Don't worry, he won't get beaten up at our event'

The other had an outburst at John Kasich's victory speech in Ohio

Both wore red 'Make America Great Again' caps while being escorted out
Kasich said he enjoyed a 'good peaceful protest' as he experienced as a college student in the 1970s "

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3494399/Donald-Trump-supporter-thrown-John-Kasich-s-Ohio-victory-speech.html

"Campaign Pranksters Heckle Kasich, Rubio Speeches Dressed as Trump Supporters

Remember those comedians who have been going around pranking everyone on the campaign trail? Mediaite reported yesterday that they successfully duped a Fox News reporter into reporting on the air that Trump supporters in Florida are wearing armbands. These two guys, Jason Selvig and Davram Stiefler, have been going around to a bunch of campaign rallies for the fun of it.

They’re from the comedy troupe The Good Liars. One of them was at Rubio’s rally and heckled him early on tonight.

You can see the other one in the video from Kasich’s rally below, via CNN."

www.mediaite.com/tv/campaign-pranksters-heckle-kasich-rubio-speeches-dressed-as-trump-supporters/

Pranksters, stooges, plants, Anonymous hacktivists, MoveOn, left wing agitaors, they will throw everything they have got to try and stop Trump and quell the panic of the global elite.

He's no more anti Muslim and personal freedom than the others OhYou.

I assume you're referring to him saying : all travel by Muslims into this country must be ended – “until we find out what the heck is going on.”?

Are you aware that the US Congress is set to approve a bill (perhaps it has now I'm a bit behind the times), with plenty of backing, that would deny visa-free travel to anyone who has been in Iraq or Syria in the past five years? This, also would end visa-free travel from friendly nations like France and Belgium, where Muslims make up a significant minority of the population. Trump’s proposal despite it's horrible overtones – actually makes more sense, in that it wouldn't include a French and/or Belgian business person on a tourist visa from entering the USA. Rand Paul recently introduced legislation “suspending” entry into the US by visitors, students, refugees, etc., from countries with “significant jihadi movements.” His father, Ron Paul, brought in similar legislation – the “Terror Immigration Elimination Act”, in 2003 when he was a congressman. So Trump is simply taking the same principle in his proposed legislation and applying it more consistently.

I would like to know how they plan to detect a Muslim from wherever. They are not all called Mohammad al-Nassiri you know, and are Danish, Swedish, Greek, Russian etc.

The only way they can stop Muslims from entering the US would be to close their borders to everyone. And then they would have their own even-more-alienated American-as-apple-pie Muslims to deal with.

It's nonsense fantasized as policy.

"end visa-free travel from friendly nations like France and Belgium, where Muslims make up a significant minority of the population."

8% in France & 7% in Belgium. Yeah, scary

"BREAKING=> Protester at Marco Rubio Speech Who Posed as TRUMP SUPPORTER Is a DEMOCRAT PLANT

Jim Hoft Mar 15th, 2016 7:59 pm —55 Comments

This is an all-out assault on Donald Trump, people.

He’s getting hit from the left, the far left, Anonymous, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, the White House, the liberal media, Ted Cruz and the Republican establishment."

www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/337074/

Trump has got 'em rattled, Go Trump! "Get 'em the hell outta here!"

I'm also referring to his rhetoric about them being bad people, about his call to put them all on a register. And a stance to deny visa free travel to all those who have travelled recently to Iraq or Syria is discriminatory, but its not as far as discriminating specifically by faith.

Tell me which other candidates back discriminating by faith.

I'm not saying that Trump is the only anti-Islamic, xenophobic person in the states. After all, if he were, he wouldn't be getting such backing. That backing does not make it right.

the UK reaction to terrorism in the past and the US Republican reaction now. The IRA ran a terrible and gross campaign of violence in the UK for YEARS and yet never, did the UK decide to ban all Irish, or ban all Irish Catholics as a solution to terrorism. It wasn't (as far as I recall, I was pretty young at the time) even part of the public discussion.

The US hasn't suffered ANYTHING like what the UK and NI suffered in those years yet "ban all muslims" is their answer to the problem. Mobs love simple solutions, I suppose that is where their audience is these days?

Honestly, it's like listening to drunk people in the pub. Worse actually, even drunk people in the pub arguing politics wouldn't usually resort to the pig's blood statement made by Trump.

You might say he's just uglier, others' sentiments are the same, but I think the more extreme the statement, the more extreme the views of the person making it and that will translate into more extreme action ultimately.

Think about it, if he has voiced extreme views and gets elected in reality he has a mandate to act based on those views.

What politicians says is generally understood to be aspirational. That is how we judge who to elect and once elected, that is how they justify their actions, we have a manadate to... as based on our election campaign.. etc etc.

Public discourse is supposed to lead, it is supposed to be more thoughtful than what you hear in the pub, it's not helpful when instead it deliberately elevates people's worst fears and anger.

Oops not sure what happened there, it is supposed to start

I can't help but contrast

Are you aware that the US Congress is set to approve a bill (perhaps it has now I'm a bit behind the times), with plenty of backing, that would deny visa-free travel to anyone who has been in Iraq or Syria in the past five years?

It's a nice show off measure, but difficult to implement.
Israel has a similar system and I know that people just carry two passports or get a new one with no records of visits to any banned countries.
How will the visa authorities check where someone has been without accessing data from those countries, or airlines?

As for France, for example, how does anyone check anyone's religion?
I could apply for a visa, could show my baptism certificate, and could have converted to islam at any point since then.
How can anyone demonstrate that they're not muslim, or how do US border authorities prove they someone is?

Trump’s proposal despite it's horrible overtones – actually makes more sense, in that it wouldn't include a French and/or Belgian business person on a tourist visa from entering the USA.

Do you think that French passports mention religion? (Hint: France is a strictly secular state. It would be illegal for your personal documents to carry any mention of your religion.)

In practice, anyone not completely white would face suspicion and potential exclusion.

It would be far less racist - and realistically the only practical option - just to deny all those with French passports visa-free entry. And then wait for the same rules to be applied across the EU for all American visitors.

Basically both proposals are stupid and racist. At least Trump has the dubious merit of being a completely unashamed racist who doesn't try to pretend otherwise.

The only way they can stop Muslims from entering the US would be to close their borders to everyone.

Maybe that's not a bad idea.
Shut their borders. Nobody goes in or out. Including the President. No trade either. No communications, just in case.

"In practice, anyone not completely white would face suspicion and potential exclusion."

There are millions of Muslims in Turkey who are whiter than most Europeans, certainly whiter than Italians, Spanish, and the Portuguese. They have white skin, blue or green eyes, and have non-Muslim names you would think are Bulgarian or Croatian. Many have French, Italian, etc and UK passports.

You would have to be an American numpty whose "understanding" of the world comes from Fox TV to think that US Customs can identify Muslims with various European passports.

I meant to say "... many Muslims of Turkish heritage" in the second paragraph rather than "in Turkey".

In Turkey too.