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is it really possible that Donald trump could be president????? [Part 2]

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claig · 02/03/2016 09:27

From now on the race becomes winner take all. If Trump wins Florida on March 15, it is probably all over.

'The Republican Party now has 14 days to stop Trump'

www.vox.com/2016/3/2/11144812/super-tuesday-results-donald-trump-wins

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claig · 14/03/2016 18:24

'I'm currently watching the Cruz rally in Illinois. He is rather grim too'

OhYou, I think you would like Kasich. he is the Governor of Ohio. There is some talk that he may possibly end up Vice President or even President if the Reublican elite dump Trump in the Convention in July. I am not a fan, but he is a Tony Blair type of politician. I could see Blair getting on well eith him.

Romney is campaigning with him on Fox now.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 14/03/2016 18:51

As someone who marched against the Iraq war, I can't imagine myself liking Kaisch either! Sanders is the closest reasonable candidate for me.

Why do we have Halo ? Is there a new version of the game out?

claig · 14/03/2016 19:13

'As someone who marched against the Iraq war, I can't imagine myself liking Kaisch either!'

Yes you are absolutely right. Kasich is a war hawk, he will continue the same policies. That is one reason why I am not a fan of his.

'Sanders is the closest reasonable candidate for me.'

Yes, i like him but am not sure he has got a chance against Hillary.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 14/03/2016 20:26

I don't think he does, but if I were over there, that is who I'd be voting for - I'm not a fan of voting tactically, I'd rather vote for someone whom I actually believe is the best candidate.

BigChocFrenzy · 14/03/2016 20:26

Many decisions we make in life are based on emotion, even when we think we are being logical.
Very few voters in a democracy analyse the policies of the various parties, or assess the qualities of politicians, in any evidence-based process.

There are no educational qualifications, IQ or EQ tests required for voting in the UK or USA and neither should there be: the US had such tests in the past, designed to exclude African Americans.

Most voters do indeed go by "gut feel" for, or against a party or a candidate, sometimes on what seems absurd grounds e.g. eating a bacon sandwich and being suitable as Prime Minister.

BigChocFrenzy · 14/03/2016 20:37

Voting for a candidate whose policies you dislike, to keep out the other party, is a form of tactical voting, Most Democrats or Republicans will hold their noses and vote for Hillary / Sanders or Trump / Cruz even if they despise their party's choice. How many refuse to do so this time would be very interesting.

This picture should cause a lot of nose-holding if Hillary is the candidate. Those 2 aren't posing; they look genuinely friendly Hmm

More primaries today iirc. Have you stocked up on the popcorn supplies for a long night, Claig ?
I'll click on here in the morning, expecting to read the results Wink

BigChocFrenzy · 14/03/2016 20:37

oops, this pic

is it really possible that Donald trump could be president????? [Part 2]
BigChocFrenzy · 14/03/2016 20:43

Oh, I see primaries are tomorrow. I was Skyping with a US colleague and must have misunderstood Blush

SenecaFalls · 14/03/2016 21:34

Those 2 aren't posing; they look genuinely friendly

So what? It's well known in the States that the members of the very small club of former presidents and their spouses are fairly friendly with each other.

claig · 14/03/2016 21:45

'More primaries today iirc. Have you stocked up on the popcorn supplies for a long night, Claig ?'

Yes Tuesday night, we get the results Wednesday morning. I've got biscuits, chocolates, cakes, alcohol and coffee all lined up. Smile

'So what? It's well known in the States that the members of the very small club of former presidents'

They are all in it together, it is all a facade. Trump is not in the club, even if he becomes president. Trump has said he will open the 28 redacted pages of the 911 report. The Bushes will not be hugging Trump, Trump ended the Bush dynasty at least for the time being by mocking "low energy" Jeb.

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BigChocFrenzy · 14/03/2016 22:17

If I had a chimpanzee, I mght hug it too.

BigChocFrenzy · 14/03/2016 22:24

The Guardian says it will be Chimp-hugger vs Trump "barring some historic and unprecedented collapse"
Interestingly, they are unsure which of them will win: it depends on whether Trump attracts sufficient blue-collar Democrats to offset the Republican voters he turns off.

BigChocFrenzy · 14/03/2016 22:39

I'd say that if the race is this close it also depends on how many Democrats stay home - because it's Hillary - and how many unenthusiastic Republicans get out and vote Trump - because it's Hillary.

Maybe there is one good thing about the polarisation: the turnout should hopedully be higher than usual - the US has abysmally low turnouts in Presidential elections, which must be an unhealthy sign for a democracy.

is it really possible that Donald trump could be president????? [Part 2]
TheNewStatesman · 15/03/2016 02:06

Interesting times.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 15/03/2016 08:38

Is that an official comment TheNewStatesman? Grin

claig · 15/03/2016 09:06

Interesting video clip from Sean Hannity's Fox show last night about the Trump protestors and disruptors in Chicago. They have the Sheriff they often have on. He is excellent, I hope Trump gives him a top job if he wins.

Because America is really a free country with real free speech, you can see how politics really operates to some extent because America is an open society where ideas are still openly discussed. It is very sad what is happening and I hope the forces of freedom and liberty win.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 15/03/2016 09:34

Hannity is awful! the most biased reporter I have ever had the displeasure of hearing. I watched another of his reports yesterday.

It's all starting to sound like some apocalyptic Stephen King novel. What with the Sheriff an' all.

claig · 15/03/2016 09:39

I like Hannity, he is one of the few real conservatives on Fox. I watched Megyn Kelly on Fox last night before Hannity and I think it was very biased against Trump just one day before the crucial primaries, and on a channel that is supposed to be conservative.

There is a real battle for the soul of America happening and Trump is trying to take the country back from the powerful globalist elites and they are doing everything to try and stop him. Either way, whichever side wins, everybody on the planet will be affected.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 15/03/2016 09:51

I fear we may go in circles again Claig.

claig · 15/03/2016 09:55

Yes, let's wait for the results later tonight, that is the important thing. Trump seems to be expected to win Florida but possibly not Ohio. We will have to wait and see.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 15/03/2016 09:57

Will certainly be interesting :)

claig · 15/03/2016 09:59

OMG, just read this

"Anonymous declares 'total war' on Donald Trump

Calls campaign 'hateful' and his ideas 'appalling.'"

www.engadget.com/2016/03/14/anonymous-declares-total-war-on-donald-trump/

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 15/03/2016 10:05

I saw that last night. A fascinating development. I have no idea how to react. I certainly don't applaud it as it is an attempt to shut down democracy. Anonymous are the opposite of anything that might be categorised as 'elite' and fall entirely into the category of anarchists. But what happens when anarchists rally for the force of good? Confused

Lweji · 15/03/2016 10:16

Did I mention something about wanting war and getting war before? Wink

Not that I think they should target his business sites at all. Or shut down his campaign. Or that it is productive at all to fight fire with fire.

But I'm not surprised his campaign attracts this type of action. Not sure this is what he wants or it has caught him by surprise, but his language and attitudes are polarising people and in a bad way. It would be naive to think that everyone else would just sit and take his campaign nicely.
This is the America we could expect post-Trump. Sad

claig · 15/03/2016 11:06

'Anonymous are the opposite of anything that might be categorised as 'elite' and fall entirely into the category of anarchists.'

No. Anonymous is a left wing group and at the real top leves is funded by the same oligarchs who fund Occupy Wall Street, MoveOn and all the rest of the left wing organisations. Most of the people in these organisations don't realise who is pulling the strings. They are being used in a political battle between billionaire elites for control and power.

What we are witnessing in America is a battle for the soul of America as a left wing CNN report says

"Trump's candidacy represents a battle for the soul of America
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Donald Trump will be the GOP's presidential nominee, if dominance on Super Tuesday is any indication of what's to come, and that means this November's election will not just be a battle for the White House.

It will be a fight for the soul of America.

I'm far from alone in this view. We have even seen Republicans such as Sen. Ben Sasse from Nebraska and a number of other conservatives denouncing Trump and pledging that they will not vote for him if he's the GOP nominee.

edition.cnn.com/2016/03/02/opinions/trump-and-americas-soul-obeidallah/

But, being CNN it is left wing and therefore paints Trump as a dangerous Hitler type figure, which is the opposite of what is really going on.

As the Sheriff on Sean Hannity said about the protest movement

"tthey know that to control the narrative, you have to control the language [which is what political correctness is all about], they know that Trump is a threat now to their moving in and disrupting our ordered liberty here in the United States, our rule under law or the rule of law"

The person who threatened to attack Trump and rushed him on stage has now been given media airtime in an interview on left wing CNN instead of being marginalised and ignored.

The reason all of this is happening is because Trump has threatened the global elites' system by daring to say he wanst to end the free trade deals that are a cornerstone of the global system they have implemented which ships people's jobs abroad.

Nearly all the elites across the world are terrified of what changes trump will bring to the world and even our much loved Tony Blair has expressed anxiety over Trump.

"Donald Trump’s rise sparks alarm in Japan
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According to a number of officials, Tokyo is still fairly relaxed about Mr Trump's views on security, regarding the US-Japan alliance as strong enough to cope, but they are becoming increasingly alarmed by bipartisan attacks on the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a trade deal crucial to Prime Minister Shinzo Abe."

www.cnbc.com/2016/03/14/donald-trumps-rise-sparks-alarm-in-japan.html

The entire global system has mobilised against Trump. They have to try and stop him because he intends to stop their global trade plans. That is why they use their media to paint him as a Hitler type figure, hoping that the people will not vote for him and end their global system.

As part of the attempt to shut down Trump's free speech, they set their left wing agitator groups on him and the agitators don't even realise who is controlling them.

They will probably beat Trump in the end because they are far more powerful, have far more money and have far more influence. They have all the cards, but Trump has the people.

Tune in tonight to see if the people win and Trump draws ever closer to getting in.

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