is it really possible that Donald trump could be president????? [Part 2]

[claig]

From now on the race becomes winner take all. If Trump wins Florida on March 15, it is probably all over.

'The Republican Party now has 14 days to stop Trump'

www.vox.com/2016/3/2/11144812/super-tuesday-results-donald-trump-wins

But Claig he has a responsibility for how he engages at these rallies. And he engages in s manner that creates heightened tension and violence.

He is the man on the podium here.

Blaming some mystery conspiracy group of billionaires is just racking up the tension some more.

He wants the crowd angry. They didn't cancel Chicago because of jokes.

FFS Claig give your arse a chance!

'I meant Trump himself...'

No, Trump has not funded the protestors against him. However, in my opinion, he outplayed the left wing billionaires and elites who did fund them. He decided to hold a rally in the Democrat controlled Chicago at a university of all places where he knew the students and protest groups would be activated against him. In my opinion, he probably knew what they would do, as Trump insiders have inside sources within the opposing camp because all of these people are lifelong political operatives experienced in running political campaigns, with friends and associates across the party divide.

He then called the rally off four days before the crucial Tuesday primaries knowing that he would get maximum media coverage and that the silent majority would be angered by the protestors bragging about stopping a Trump rally and that they will probably all turn out to vote for Trump on Tuesday now after this publicity and the ineffective Republican opposition blaming Trump instead of the protestors.

How do you know he hasn't?
It's a good trick to reinforce your own support and look like a victim.
It's not a common thing to happen in elections. Why now?

It's as good as a conspiracy theory as any other.

'Claig my point was that Trump, whatever he is saying, is still working within the current system. He is running as a Republican nominee to run for POTUS. How is that not working with the current system?'

Room101isWhereIUsedToLive , you may be right. No one yet knows if Trump is for real or if he is tricking everyone, we will have to wait and see. But at the moment as "Cameron's Brain", Steve Hilton, said, there is no one else

"Until Trump, no mainstream US politician had spoken up for working people in these terms. No one had challenged the technocratic agenda of the bankers, the bureaucrats and the accountants. That’s why so many people support Trump; and why he is politically important."

'It's as good as a conspiracy theory as any other.'

No because you have to remember that the Establishment is much more powerful than Trump and they would know from inside sources if Trump had paid for the protestors and if they found that out, then it would be front page headlines in order to discredit Trump.

Instead, Trump's people think they know who is behind it, but since they don't control the media narrative, it will never be front page headlines.

"He is running as a Republican nominee to run for POTUS. How is that not working with the current system?'"

trump thought about running as an independent and if the Reoublican elite dump him at the Convention, he probably still will. But apparently it is nearly impossible to win in America as an independent and to win you have to be part of the two party system.

Trump has chosen to be a Republican, but he could have chosen to be a Demcrat instead because in the past he has adopted lots of liberal positions and has funded Democrat politicians. Trump says he is a conservative and the Republican elite say he is not a "real conservative".

All Trump really cares about is "fixing" America, so no one knows what positions he will really adopt in the end, but his best chance to win is as a Republican.

Ask yourself who benefits from the clashes and the violence.
Who thrives on this?
Whose speech has prepared the ground for this?

Most reasonable people wouldn't imagine such a strategy. But it's working for him.
I really see no other groups benefiting from these clashes.
It's very easy to plant people in the middle of either side and kick off the confrontations.

Who is actually benefiting from this and who has been inflaming it? And you may find who is behind it.

Yes, Trump has benefitted and will probably now win on Tuesday, but I don't think Trump has the level of control to pay for the Black Lives Matter and other protestors who are trying to shut him down. I think he knew what they were planning and he used it to his advantage by outwitting his opponents.

Sure...

Yeah 'cause waving a few posters around or trying to ask a question is really threatening apparently. Would shut anyone down that kind of nonsense.

claig you have no insider information and you are making up all your claims re world elite, political establishment, what they all think or want.

Many of your posts appear delusional bordering on schizophrenic and not just re your apparent belief that you can read the minds of millions of people and know for sure they are all decent.

HTH bring you albeit slightly towards reality, but after years of reading hundreds of threads where you have broadcasted similar nonsense on UKIP and Sarah Palin, sadly, I know it won't.

"Multiple law enforcement sources confirmed that an organized mob attended Trump's rally with the intention of storming the stage"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3488651/Trump-rally-called-Chicago-credible-threat-protesters-planned-storm-stage-Trump-s-speech-black-protester-bloodied-St-Louis.html

Yesterday, Trump was rushed on stage from behind.

This is politics and the stakes could not be higher. They want to stop Trump getting into power because he will be coming after the elites who rigged the system.

'you are making up all your claims re world elite, political establishment'

Yes and I suppose that "Cameron's Brain", Steve Hilton is too. This is some of what he says

"This agenda favours big business over small, fetishises globalisation, and is relaxed about immigration – regardless of the consequences for working people. As factories close, jobs disappear and wages fall, the response from the elite has been callous and inhuman: ‘This is the world we live in: suck it up and get with the programme.’

Well, people have had enough of being dismissed and patronised by the elite – who, by the way, do very nicely out of this technocratic agenda. Big businesses use their market dominance and unfair access to the levers of power to rip off consum

If you are not interested in the Trump phenomenon, if all you can contribute is that Trump is "racist" and his supporters are "stupid bigots", why don't you post on a different thread.

"organized mob attended Trump's rally with the intention of storming the stage (black protester bloodied) They want to stop Trump getting into power because he will be coming after the elites who rigged the system."

Let's try a dose of reality: Could it be that black people are protesting Trump's rally because he is a xenophobic racist with stated plans to deport Muslims & Mexicans, for example?

Yes you are making it all up. You have no insider knowledge, no knowledge at all aside from the garbled nonsense you get off Fox News and Daily Mail. Your "understanding" of economy and especially international affairs is embarrassingly childish.

That some other people seem to believe some of what you say doesn't mean you are right. It just means you don't know what a logical fallacy is.

'Could it be that black people are protesting Trump's rally because he is a xenophobic racist with stated plans to deport Muslims & Mexicans, for example?'

It could be, but as multiple law enforcement sources said there were credible reports that an organised mob was intending to storm the stage, so it looks like planning was involved and the printed banners all cost money and Trump insiders have named the millionaire who they think is behind it.

'You have no insider knowledge'

I never said I have inside knowledge I said that billionaire trump's lifelong expereinced political operatives have lots of inside knowledge and lots of sources and they have inside information. I listen to what they are saying to try and understand what is really going on.

"'Could it be that black people are protesting Trump's rally because he is a xenophobic racist with stated plans to deport Muslims & Mexicans, for example?'
It could be, but as multiple law enforcement sources said there were credible reports that an organised mob was intending to storm the stage, so it looks like planning was involved"

And what... black people against racism can't plan, get organized, and print some banners on their own, so it must be "global elite" making them do it?

Do you really not realize how ridiculous this sounds?

If anyone is naive about politics and what really goes on and what dirty tricks are really played, I think it is you. But if you keep reading, you might learn something.

"I never said I have inside knowledge"

So do please stop talking as if you do. Trump thinks this, his supporters are all decent people, "the elite" are afraid he will topple them all etc etc.

Stop this neverending flood of bullshit. It is killing all talk on MN about politics.

'It is killing all talk on MN about politics.'

I am posting mainly on one thread about Trump. I watch Fox and read US papers and listen to Trump insiders so I know quite a bit about Trump. You know next to nothing about him and all you can contribute is that his supporters ae bigots and stupid and he is a racist. Why don't you get off this thread and let the discussion about Trump, the primaries, the protests in Chicago, "Cameron's Brain", Steve Hilton and all the rest flow so that anyone who is interested can join in and agree or disagree in a civilised fashion that doesn't involve hurling insults about "talking bullshit" and all the rest.

You are the one who is learning, actually. You recently learned that Erdogan is not the great leader you thought he was, and just on his very thread you learned that waterboarding is torture.

You do learn but the process is very slow and it is at the expense of all debate on politics on here.

Can you at least try giving the storm of bullshit made-up stuff a rest? I mean you don't really have to tell us over and over and over what you believe all the players are thinking & planning, including the imaginary ones.

'You recently learned that Erdogan is not the great leader you thought he was'

Can you keep on topic? This is a Trump thread. If you want to kill political debate by talking about Erdogan, go and start an Erdgan thread.

'You do learn but the process is very slow and it is at the expense of all debate on politics on here. '

There are hundredss of threads on politics, why don't you leave this one Trump thread and go and try to kill those instead of trying to kill this one by personally insulting me.

It is not a personal attain or an insult to point out that your posts contain allegations and claims that have no basis in fact and are just stuff you have made up (as you say yourself downthread).

You don't know what Trump thinks. You don't have any real knowledge of "the elite". You don't know that Trump supporters are all decent people. Yet you keep telling us what they all think, feel, fear, and even plan.

Stuff you read in Daily Mail and Fox News (DM-equivalent in terms of credibility & reputation) is not "knowledge".