is it really possible that Donald trump could be president????? [Part 2]

[claig]

From now on the race becomes winner take all. If Trump wins Florida on March 15, it is probably all over.

'The Republican Party now has 14 days to stop Trump'

www.vox.com/2016/3/2/11144812/super-tuesday-results-donald-trump-wins

"In line, I met a middle-aged woman who had quit her job to care for her ailing father, who was too weak to stand, so he rested, in his “Make America Great Again” cap, against walls along the way. Her eyes filled with tears, she professed her own dedication to Trump, whom she saw as an authentic advocate of the downtrodden. But most of all, she wanted to show her father something special, an American moment that would make him proud. Next to her was a family with a baby, decked out in Trump gear like her parents. Other Trump fans offered the young family assistance as the line dragged on. Behind them were a couple who had driven three hours from rural Missouri."

These are fantastic people, the hard working people who built America and who never earned the million dollar bonuses of the Wall Street sharks or the $250,000 fees that Hillary earned for making a speech to Goldman Sachs. These are people who are desperate for jobs and good wages and good healthcare and cheaper education. They flock to Trump rallies because he is an outsider, not a member of the "political class", someone who insults the "political class" and calls them "losers" and "puppets", a "political class" that has let them all down. They think Trump is going to help them and so does the Establishment which is why they are desperately trying to stop Trump.

Well, some of his suporters certainly are racists, but their driving anger seems to be the very real decline in propects for ordinary Americans accompanied by the obscene % of US wealth that the billionaires have accumulated.
Almost all politicians ignore this and have completely lost touch with how ordinary people live.
Much like here.

"Nature abhors a vacuum" and that is what most political parties have become.
So, political mavericks fill the vacuum.

It's not that more Americans have become racist, imo, but that more have become aware and angry that the economic deck is stacked against them and their families.
So, some will blindly ignore those who are racist. Visceral emotions prevent analytical thinking.

Being attacked by the Saudis and Tony Blair (the Terror Twins) won't harm Trump or anyone else.

Politico describes why next Tuesday may determine "whether there’s chaos or a coronation" at the Republican convention.

Their analysis is that if he wins both Florida & Ohio, then he'll probably end up with a majority of delegates and be the nominee. Throwing out the rulebook to stop him in those circumstances would destroy the party, so won't happen. Don't worry about your "elite" in those circs.

However, if he fails to win both states, then he probably won't have a majority, so there will be chaos, smoke-filled rooms and a nominee - whether Trump, Cruz, or A N Other - that noone will be happy with.
A massive loss in November would be a certainty.

'Well, some of his suporters certainly are racists'

Yes, out of millions of supporters, there will be some racists, but the majority aren't and are decent people who just want a better life.

'"Nature abhors a vacuum" and that is what most political parties have become.
So, political mavericks fill the vacuum.'

Yes, but it is even worse than a vacuum. Most of them, as Trump says, are "puppets" who are "bought and paid for" by special interests and lobbyists and the needs and concerns of the people are the last thing they care about.

When Trump was rushed on stage today, afterwards he said to the crowds "do I need this? I have to do it because I love this country". It gave Trump everything he has and he wants to give something back and he says he is sick of watching it decline under the "losers" who are "bought and paid for". He has travelled all over America during this campaign and he says "I have met amazing people, people of 60 and 70 years old with a Trump shirt on who tell him they have never ever voted but that they wiill this time". They are depending on Trump, let's hope he doesn't let them down.

Yes, Tuesday is the key date and after Trump cancelled the rally (which I am not sure he had to do, but in fact possibly wanted to do in order to win media coverage that will help him) I think he will win Illinois and may well win the other states too.

Personally, I think expecting someone who is working within the system to bring about great change, is a vain and foolish hope. The only way that the established system will be dismantled is by people who are not part of the system.

Room101isWhereIUsedToLive, I think you are right.

Stump for Trump sisters breaking news video on the protests last night. They think it was all planned to make Trump look bad in media coverage. I think Trump probably outsmarted the planners by cancelling the rally which made him look like the victim which will help him on Tuesday.

Claig, did you write this?

[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3489656/To-dismiss-Trump-bigoted-buffoon-YUGE-mistake-s-elite-bashing-hit-workers-Political-svengali-helped-sweep-David-Cameron-power-gives-stunning-appraisal-president.html]

Compendious.

"To dismiss Trump as a bigoted buffoon is a 'YUGE' mistake... he's an elite-bashing hit with the workers: Political svengali who helped sweep David Cameron to power gives his stunning appraisal of would-be US president"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3489656/To-dismiss-Trump-bigoted-buffoon-YUGE-mistake-s-elite-bashing-hit-workers-Political-svengali-helped-sweep-David-Cameron-power-gives-stunning-appraisal-president.html

Thanks for that article, fourmummy.

That is not me, that is Steve Hilton. He is known as "Mr Moderniser", and "Cameron's brain". He was the brains behind Cameron and the guiding light in modernisation etc. He is responsible for "blue sky thinking". There was a time when I was not keen on him because he was a "moderniser" and I didn't agree with him, but he has changed a lot and is very flexible and recently he makes a lot of sense.

He left the UK a few years' ago and went to work in the US where he has now set up his own company. He is very good, so I will have a read of it. I would have missed it because I don't read the Daily Mail much anymore - now I read the US papers like the Daily Beast and the New Yorker etc to keep up with the biggest political revolution on earth - Trumpism.

Thanks for the link, I will have a read of it.

That was a good article. I like reading Steve Hilton these days even though I still disagree with him on lots of points.

Heard a former Trump advisor say that Bernie's campaign had nothing to do with the protestors in Chicago. Lots of them had Bernie banners, professionally printed, but from his inside sources, they were not real Bernie supporters, they were just given the banners.

It IS a good article. Says it all, really, and explains very well Trump's appeal (despite the fact that everyone else is scratching their heads, wondering how it can possibly be).

Yes, they interviewed Steve Hilton on BBC Newsnight about Trump recently and he made some very interesting points. The BBC host tried the usual BBC type stuff but Steve Hilton put him right and explained what was really going on.

I think it boils down to this (from the 'academics support Trump' article I linked to earlier in the week) and the DM article above:

The knee-jerk reaction is to hate what Trump says, but the immediate second thought is this:

Many more academics than you think support Trump. They realize that even if he delivers one or two of his bombastic pronouncements, that is more than what the career politicians would ever deliver in reality

I wonder if this explains it (his popularity, and by that, I mean the phenomenon that anyone so rude and obnoxious could ever garner the popularity that he has. It's unthinkable in terms of politics and yet he seems to be doing it)

'I mean the phenomenon that anyone so rude and obnoxious could ever garner the popularity that he has. It's unthinkable in terms of politics and yet he seems to be doing it'

I think it is to do with breaking the starnglehold of political correctness. Political correctness is a technique used by the political elite to circumscribe legitimate dissent and debate, to define what is allowable under the political elite's rules. It is the cloak the professional spinners and wonks hide behind when they deliver their anodyne spin driven speeches which do not address the people's real concerns. Trump has blasted through this barrier by being "rude" and exposing the spinners for what they are.

As Camille Paglia said about Trump

"Camille Paglia on the GOP front-runner’s refreshing candor (and his impetuousness, too)

Yes, he remains thin-skinned and easily riled. But his fearlessness and brash energy also seem necessary and rare
...
Nevertheless, Trump’s fearless candor and brash energy feel like a great gust of fresh air, sweeping the tedious clichés and constant guilt-tripping of political correctness out to sea. Unlike Hillary Clinton, whose every word and policy statement on the campaign trail are spoon-fed to her by a giant paid staff and army of shadowy advisors, Trump is his own man, with a steely “damn the torpedoes” attitude."

www.salon.com/2016/03/10/i_was_wrong_about_donald_trump_camille_paglia_on_the_gop_front_runners_refreshing_candor_and_his_impetuousness_too/

Trump is carrying out a vital service, breaking the control of these Oxbridge and Ivy Laegue School spinners in the service of corporate and global elites who divert discussion from the real issues of jobs, employment and prosperity onto politically correct side issues in order to avoid addressing the people's concerns.

Rubio is the Establishment's politically correct candidate desperately trying to beat Trump and hold back the populist tide that threatens to overthrow the Establishment. He tries the usual politically correct tricks that the Establishment taught him but even he realises he is powerless against Trump because as he himself said "Trump says what everyone wishes they could say" but aren't allowed to say by the controllers.

"Many more academics than you think support Trump."

Academics support Trump like scientists doubt climate change - no doubt there are a few outliers but the vast majority of Trump's supporters are ignorant, undereducated, and gullible. They would have to be to believe the nonsense he comes up with.

"They realize that even if he delivers one or two of his bombastic pronouncements, that is more than what the career politicians would ever deliver in reality"

But the point is that if you understand the implications of what Trump says he will do, you should NOT want him to deliver any of it.

"Yes, out of millions of supporters, there will be some racists, but the majority aren't and are decent people who just want a better life."

You know this... How, exactly?

Personally, I don't much like Trump and am not one of his supporters. However, I have become interested in the phenomenon of Trump. On paper, I would have expected him to flounder a long time ago but he hasn't. I am curious about this. There are many possible explanations; others are much worse (!), he is a novelty, people are thoroughly fed up. I like to find explanations for seemingly unexplainable things

Good to see that Trump continues to alienate anyone against him and inciting divisiveness in the latest rallies.
He has probably identified correctly Sanders as his main opponent and is going at him.

I think it would be interesting to identify who these protesters are, btw.
They can be independent people getting together through social networks, paid for by "establishment" millionaires, OR paid by Trump. I wouldn't put past him engineering confrontation to increase his appeal. It wouldn't be the first time that this strategy was used.

Politics is fixed, it is rigged. Left wing billionaires are funding the protestors in Chicago and Black Lives Matter and left wing former terrorists like Bill Ayers were at the demonstration against Trump. These things are not spontaneous, they are as Trump said "planned". they are done to control the media narrative, to paint Trump as a racist in the Establishment's desperate attempt to stop Trump bringing down their entire system.

People are used as pawns in a political game by tricksters and billionaires who pay for the "puppet" politicians, who slant media coverage and who can create protests that are intended to "divide and rule" the people so that they can continue their corrupt system of gaining enormous wealth by buying politicians and implementing global trade policies that benefit the banks and not the people.

The reason that the entire world's bought and paid for political class is against Trump is because they fear him. He said in his rally last night "things are going to change or we are not going to have a country". Trump will go after the billionaires who funded and organised these groups whose aim was to stifle free speech and subvert the political process. Trump is coming for the elite and they know it which is why they are doing everything and using every trick and comedian to try and stop him.

It is a popular revolution and nothing like it has ever been seen. There will be huge changes because the elites who have controlled political discourse, who have used political correctness to fool the people, who have enriched themselves with their phoney charidees and foundations and who have pocketed the money of lobbyists, are going to be called out by Trump.

The EU fears trump, Blair is anxious, the businees elites are panicking, Davos is davostated. It's a political earthquake. It's Trump 2016!

As "Cameron's Brain", Steve Hilton, rightly said

"Until Trump, no mainstream US politician had spoken up for working people in these terms. No one had challenged the technocratic agenda of the bankers, the bureaucrats and the accountants. That’s why so many people support Trump; and why he is politically important."

It's over for the elite. As Trump said it's "not gonna happen anymore" which is why Trump rallies are packed with people cheering as Trump is rude about the elites and is why the elites are terrified of what Trump will do when he comes after them.

" I like to find explanations for seemingly unexplainable things"

Sadly, nations have elected Erdogan, Hitler, and Bush so it is not unheard of for dangerous bullies with sociopathic tendencies to be elected.

Most people are just not very bright or aware of what is going on around them.

Left wing billionaires are funding the protestors

I think you are forgetting the right wing millionaire who may well be funding the protesters.

A further quote from a comment on the 'More academics support Trump than you might think' article:

The complaint about Trump is that he has not been very specific about his plans. Seasoned politicians make promises fully knowing that the general public has a 15-minute memory and they will never be called upon to be accountable by the media. So, the goal is to keep the media happy.

The following list is a few of the promises made by the current president while running for office:
• Close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center
• Allow imported prescription drugs
• Prevent drug companies from blocking generic drugs
• Allow Medicare to negotiate for cheaper drug prices
• Double federal funding for cancer research
• Reduce the threshold for the Family and Medical Leave Act from companies with 50 employees to companies with 25 employees
• Restore habeas corpus rights for "enemy combatants"
• Secure ratification of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT)
• Allow five days of public comment before signing bills

He did not deliver any of these. And, very few citizens remember the promises and even fewer care about them. And, there are dozens more in the list of unmet promises.

'I think you are forgetting the right wing millionaire who may well be funding the protesters.'

Yes that is also possible. As the Stump for Trump sisters said, they think it was "planned" by the Establishment, the GOP elite etc. They are all in it together and they are all against Trump.

Sadly, nations have elected Erdogan, Hitler, and Bush so it is not unheard of for dangerous bullies with sociopathic tendencies to be elected

Cote I was thinking about exactly this when I wrote my post. Given the full knowledge of history, Trump's support is unexpected and not easily explainable. Therefore, there must be more to it.

'I think you are forgetting the right wing millionaire who may well be funding the protesters.'

I meant Trump himself...

Claig my point was that Trump, whatever he is saying, is still working within the current system. He is running as a Republican nominee to run for POTUS. How is that not working with the current system?

Good point. He's not running as an independent.