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is it really possible that Donald trump could be president?????

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Bishopsbuddy · 10/02/2016 18:13

I have zero understanding of American politics and wondered could some one give me an idiots explanation pls. Could trump really win???

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Lweji · 16/02/2016 09:49

Nobody has a clue, except the whatever Sisters, and some silly conspiracy theory bloggers and Trump himself. Oh, and you, claig, with your 99.9% accuracy failure rate, isn't it?

claig · 16/02/2016 09:53

'but the guy's got cojones #GOPDebate'

The world stage has never seen anyone like Trump. He has superhuman courage. He doesn't speak Oxbridge like our wonks, he is frightened of no one, not the New York Times, not Bloomberg, not any billionaire, not the Bushes, not anybody or anything.

They don't know how to stop him.

The Oxford PPE, Jonathan Freedland, the Guardian's executive editor said "we have to fight fire with fire" to beat Trump. What joke! Trump was making billions while these wonks were still in kindergarten. Trump says "I deal with Manhattan real estate and those guys are babies compared to these "politicians", some of these politicians "are nasty, dishonest people". But they won't beat Trump.

"Not gonna happen anymore"
Trump 2016!

Alasalas · 16/02/2016 09:55

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MadameDePompom · 16/02/2016 10:00

The government will probably start issuing Anderson shelter packs if he wins.

var123 · 16/02/2016 10:01

Alasalas - you won't have to. He has no magical powers. He may have a super-sized ego but the US political system was designed with checks and balances built in, and that will be the first line of defence.

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Lweji · 16/02/2016 10:05

BTW, Trump is not exactly "leading".

On national polls, he loses against either Clinton or Sanders, while for the next primaries he doesn't get above 40% (except in one), having in all likelihood exhausted his electorate. Most Republican voters are more likely to get behind the front runner of the other candidates and for them to endorse anyone but Trump as they fall off along the way.

www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

Just waiting for Super Tuesday and the big states.

var123 · 16/02/2016 10:09

True - they may have to cancel his phone line and broadband access!
You aren't wrong that its dangerous to have someone like this loose in the White House, it really and truly is. However, there are limits to what he can do (thankfully).

Apart from firing off loudly in all directions undoing centuries of diplomacy, I think the main problem would be that he'd actually be completely ineffectual as a president. So, there'd be stalemate and nothing would happen apart from a lot of noise. I know that sounds preferable, and it is, but the world changes, and leadership is required so a lame-duck president is a problem in itself.

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Lweji · 16/02/2016 10:15

The problem with what he proposes is that the US President has very little power inside the US. His power is mostly in relation to external relationships.
So, he'd be locking himself into a useless position by concentrating on internal issues and avoiding external issues.
It provides a good sound bite, but whatever he wants to do internally has to go through Congress and the Senate. Whatever previous presidents have promised internally have had to struggle mightily against opposition houses. Certainly Clinton and Obama.
Trump would probably have a Republican majority, but it would do him no good if he alienated the party machine as well.

BTW, Sanders and Clinton will have the same problems. So, even a possible "non-establishment" Sanders would have limited options.

claig · 16/02/2016 10:19

'Just waiting for Super Tuesday and the big states.'

Absolutely. The whole world is waiting for that. Brussels has got special feeds set up, padded panic rooms kitted out (paid for by the people), and are biting their nails a la Gordon Brown, and are probably already throwing mobile phones around (paid for by the people). Wonks are waiting in the wings for the news that Trump has ended their dreams. The people are expectant ready to party like it's 1999.

GruntledOne · 16/02/2016 10:34

Does Trump care? Does he heck. He tweeted "careful" which in Trump speak means that the gloves are off.

Anyone else feeling like Trump needs to be told to grow up?

As for that last post, claig: if you don't want us to think it's pure fantasy, do tell us precisely where the panic rooms are, what they're kitted out with, show us the proof including the evidence of how they're paid for.

Lweji · 16/02/2016 10:36

padded panic rooms

is it really possible that Donald trump could be president?????
claig · 16/02/2016 10:41

'do tell us precisely where the panic rooms are, what they're kitted out with, show us the proof including the evidence of how they're paid for.'

They are in Brussels EU offices, next to the publicly paid for bars and restaurants where the bankers, bigwigs and bureaucrats indulge themselves at public expense.

The panic rooms are kitted out with extra strength padding because Brussels bureucrats expect to see bankers and bigwigs bouncing off the walls as they totally lose it when Trump wins Super Tuesday and mocks Jeb Bush in his victory speech.

'show us the proof including the evidence of how they're paid for.'

Unfortunately I can't show that as the Brussels bigwigs do not have their accounts audited so that the public cannot see how their money has been wasted.

claig · 16/02/2016 10:57

This is the full context of why Putin is laughing.

He cant help it when the journalist tells him with a straight face that NATO says that its missile system in Europe is against Iran and not Russia.

GruntledOne · 16/02/2016 11:02

OK, claig, show us proof of the existence of the panic rooms other than via the accounts.

claig · 16/02/2016 11:04

'OK, claig, show us proof of the existence of the panic rooms other than via the accounts.'

They have kept them quiet because otherwise people will ask who paid for them and the EU is already in an existential crisis and that would just tip it over the edge.

Lweji · 16/02/2016 11:07

So, they have kept it so quiet and out of the public eye and with such lack of evidence that they are only a figure of speech your mind rumblings.

He's "just joking", people.

GruntledOne · 16/02/2016 11:08

Oh, right, it's a fantasy then. Or a terminological inexactitude. Or one of those tedious "jokes". Or a lie.

Just one of those times when I see exactly why you have an affinity with Trump, claig.

claig · 16/02/2016 11:11

It was a joke. Trump cracks jokes and me and the Trumpites laugh.

claig · 16/02/2016 11:24

We stand on the precipice of an abyss. 2016 is going to be a massive year. We are very close to WWIII. Some people have backed "chopping off heads" Jihadis.

If Trump wins everything will be sorted out peacefully. If Establishment Kasich wins then he thinks "we should punch the Russians in the nose".

This week we saw the historic first time in 1000 years meeting between the Pope and the Russian Patrirach. The Patriarch did not want to see the Pope, but Putin told him he had to because things are now very close to a war.

"Joint Declaration of Pope Francis and Patriarch Kirill
...
We call on all the countries involved in the struggle against terrorism to responsible and prudent action. We exhort all Christians and all believers of God to pray fervently to the providential Creator of the world to protect His creation from destruction and not permit a new world war."

en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/02/12/joint_declaration_of_pope_francis_and_patriarch_kirill/1208117

claig · 16/02/2016 11:29

Presidential candidate, Ben Carson, a very decent man, not one of the "political class", an outsider like Trump said on Fox a few weeks ago.

"The message is that we are in a tremendous amount of trouble in this country. We are at the precipice -- about to go over the precipice and fundamentally change it to something else.

"And if we don't get serious about this and stop worrying about personalities instead of worrying about solutions to our problems, we are going to go over that cliff."

www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/ben-carson-we-are-precipice-stop-worrying-about-personalities

The South Carolina primary is on Saturday. If Trump loses, the Establishment wins. History is being made before our eyes. I think Trump will thrash the puppets.

Trump 2016!

Lweji · 16/02/2016 11:29

It was a joke. Trump cracks jokes and me and the Trumpites laugh.

Everyone disagrees with you, sometimes quite rudely, yet you remain unfailingly polite.

This is why some pps appear to be rude.

claig · 16/02/2016 11:54

The Establishment tried to ambush Trump at Saturday noght's Republican debate. They packed the seats with their booers who booed Trump and cheered Jeb. But it hasn't fooled the American people.

"After debate, Trump still tops SC GOP presidential race

Donald Trump still is leading the S.C. Republican presidential race after the weekend’s explosive GOP debate in Greenville.

But the race for second place in Saturday’s primary appears to be narrowing.

Behind Trump, who has 35 percent support in a new poll, U.S. Sens. Marco Rubio of Florida and Ted Cruz of Texas are tied for second place — at 18 percent each, according to a Public Policy Polling survey released exclusively Monday to The State.

Ohio Gov. John Kasich is in fourth at 10 percent support, followed by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, tied with 7 percent support each.
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The GOP poll suggests Trump’s debate performance – in which he criticized former President George W. Bush for the 2001 terror attacks – may not be hurting the frontrunner in a state that has deep ties to the Bush family."

www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article60547281.html

Jeb rolled out his brother in South Carolina last night and you should have seen what looked like a panic-stricken former Bush aide on Fox last night countering Trump's criticisms of Bush with yellow sticky notes in former CIA director George Tenet's book to disprove what Trump had said.

At the end of Trump's speech last night, he said "OK I'll end it now and let you people go home. You can go and watch Bush" and the Trumpites booed.

They won't beat Trump.

It's Trump 2016!

GruntledOne · 16/02/2016 12:07

A suggestion, claig. Just pack in the boring "jokes", they don't work. And this picture your're painting of Trump's adoring and mindless supporters falling around laughing at his jokes/lies isn't exactly to their credit, either.

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