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Cologne Sexual Assaults IX and David Davies Web Chat

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LumelaMme · 07/02/2016 13:07

On New Year's Eve women in Cologne were amongst those who were sexually assaulted and robbed in mass attacks.
This is a link to the last thread which has links to all the others.

Some of us have begun a petition asking the government to uphold women's rights and freedoms:

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We also hope that tomorrow, Monday 8th February, David TC Davies MP will be on MN for a web chat between 1pm and 2pm - it should be a sticky on either Chat or In The News. David was one of the few MPs who has shown any interest in this whole issue and who has responded sympathetically to those of us concerned about women's rights in a changing world.

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MariscallRoad · 08/04/2016 18:09

I think routes of migrant entry have changed since 20 March

MariscallRoad · 08/04/2016 18:18

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/658522/David-Cameron-Alexis-Tsipras-European-Union-EU-referendum?_ga=1.30354105.742860795.1452641465
MIGRANT CRISIS: Now David Cameron offers MORE help to Greece return refugees
It says:

He told Greek prime minister Alexis Tsipras that additional support will be available in the coming weeks.
Greek authorities have warned the operation is threatened by a shortage of officials to carry out the deportations.
Mr Cameron's offer to help Greece came just hours before border officials admitted terrorists are posing as migrants to infiltrate Europe.

MariscallRoad · 08/04/2016 23:38

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3527771/German-minister-told-police-remove-word-rape-reports-mass-migrant-sex-attacks-Cologne-new-Year-s-Eve.html#ixzz45HGKcSRW
It says:
Claims a senior police officer was urged to remove word 'rape' from reports
Allegedly given the order by the interior ministry of North Rhine-Westphalia
Internal report drawn up morning after New Year's Eve attacks in Cologne

Now more comes out..

MariscallRoad · 08/04/2016 23:39

Good we kept the reserve Thread

MariscallRoad · 08/04/2016 23:43

More here 8 April:
Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3529300/Germany-sinister-bid-hide-truth-migrant-sex-attacks-Politicians-pressurise-police-removing-word-rape-mass-sex-attack-report.html#ixzz45HHz2YJt
Germany and a sinister bid to hide the truth about migrant sex attacks: Politicians pressurise police into removing word 'rape' from mass sex attack report
Residents scarred by memories of student, 19, being gang-raped at 4am
Men from migrant block arrested, though unclear what happened to them
As many as 1,000 women said they were assaulted in Cologne area
Top politician pressured the police to remove word ‘rape’ from their report

AnnaForbes · 09/04/2016 09:26

'Asylum seeker repeatedly forced 13yo Austrian girl into having sex'. Can't link but top of RT news. Ignored as usual, by our press.

ItsJustAnotherUsername · 10/04/2016 10:34

More media cover ups. This story isn't being reported anywhere else, not even on the French news as far as I can see.

www.express.co.uk/news/world/659643/Calais-migrants-refugees-Jungle-attack-violence-car-barricade-road-UK-truckers

I expect we'll be subjected to ever more media cover ups in the run up to the referendum.

Meanwhile it has been reported that the UK Border Force can expect budget cuts of £88 million. Better start building more prisons.

Jonathonseagull · 10/04/2016 12:54

Some really interesting posts on here - thank you for the links. So sad to see the photos of Egypt several decades ago and compare to today.

MariscallRoad · 10/04/2016 15:07

www.express.co.uk/news/world/659720/Tear-gas-Macedonia-migrants-Greece-EU-borders
Tear gas riots as 500-strong mob of migrants attempt to storm their way into Europe

ItsJustAnotherUsername · 10/04/2016 15:15

I saw that Marsicall, you have the no borders loons crying 'look they're using tear gas' and still insisting these people are refugees. These people are criminals. Wtf do they expect when they attempt to illegally enter a country, tear down border fences and pelt the border guards with rocks? They are in GREECE, Greece is a safe country, they have no right to cherry pick their destinations.

MariscallRoad · 10/04/2016 21:46

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3532355/More-half-Muslims-want-gay-sex-outlawed-nearly-quarter-support-areas-UK-run-sharia-law.html#ixzz45SVYi7Tl
Former equal rights chief Phillips, who speaks to several members of the Muslim community on their views during the documentary, states that 'the integration of Muslims will probably be the hardest task' the country has ever faced.

He told The Sunday Times Magazine: 'I thought Europe's Muslims would gradually blend into the landscape. I should have known better.

AnnaForbes · 10/04/2016 23:02

Slightly off topic but it is two years since over 200 girls were kidnapped from school in Nigeria. The intention of the kidnappers was to rape and use them as wives. More suffering of girls and women caused by the interpretation and teaching of islam.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/boko-haram-nigeria-terror-group-secretly-demands-nearly-40m-for-return-of-chibok-schoolgirls-a6977901.html

MariscallRoad · 11/04/2016 00:05

Thanks for the link Anna I had known of that. It horrifies me.

sportinguista · 11/04/2016 05:59

It appears there was a leaflet telling them to storm the border fences, hmmm. Where would you plug in a photocopier in a tent? Let me see, they had a generator, that's it! They must have a generator, and a computer and a photocopier, that they brought with them in their back packs, Coe after all your average mochilla is so very roomy!

Hugely sad about the Nigerian girls, the worst is knowing what they will be suffering whilst Boko Haram has them. They may eventually be returned or rescued, but it won't be unscathed. 40 million is hell of a lot and there were opportunities missed to get them out.

I feel for Trevor Philips he has come to the realisation that he and others have been wrong and it's going to be very much harder, if not impossible in some cases. It seems to have almost swung the other way integration is I think in some ways far less than it was 10 or 20 years ago. I'm not sure what the answers are in this case.

AnnaForbes · 11/04/2016 06:52

Trevor Phillips writes: “The contempt for white girls among some Muslim men has been highlighted by the recent scandals in Rotherham, Oxford, Rochdale and other towns. But this merely reflects a deeply ingrained sexism that runs through Britain’s Muslim communities”

He gets it!

Wednesday ch4 should be interesting viewing. "what British muslims really think".

sportinguista · 11/04/2016 07:04

Also it appears they have a problem with anti semitism too. As a female Muslim labour councillor thought it was ok to post that on that on Twitter, including praise for Hiltler. She must have been a bit bonkers to think it was in any way ok and she has now been suspended but it highlights an issue not so much with the Labour Party but with the world view and mind set of anyone who thinks it is ok to express these views on social media where it can be found very easily. What if someone said similar regarding Islam? She would be calling for the strongest penalties. It applies both ways.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/04/2016 12:52

She must have been a bit bonkers to think it was in any way ok

Possibly, yes - or maybe she's become so used to saying what she wants without fear of criticism that she simply didn't care?

sportinguista · 11/04/2016 12:59

Imagine if it had been someone who was white and christian who wrote it? All hell would have been let loose.

How can she have become so used to saying things of the magnitude of that, that she thinks it was in any way acceptable to put that sort of comment in the public domain? What else is she saying in private one wonders and how many others are hiding similar vicious and horrible views?

AnnaForbes · 11/04/2016 21:03

Sadly, racism only works one way. Look at the hundreds of girls let down by the police and social services because their rapists and pimps were of Pakistani origin. I imagine that Labour councillor thought she was untouchable in our oh-so-PC nation.

Woodhill · 11/04/2016 21:08

It's awful. The way certain non conformist Moslem (for want of a better word) are treated such as the Glaswegian newsagent who was murdered. Can't understand the mentality.

sportinguista · 11/04/2016 21:21

There was an article on the BBC website this morning. Apparently a whole stack of leaflets advocating the killing of Ahmadis was found in Stockwell Green mosque in London, apparently the trustee of the mosque thought they must have been maliciously planted there or were fakes, strangely they also listed the mosque as the overseas headquarters of the group that wrote them, quite an elaborate plot it appears. They were apparently next to the shoe racks with all the other information leaflets for worshippers.

There appears to be a certain mentality around that feels it does have the right to decide who lives and who dies.

Woodhill · 11/04/2016 21:31

It just doesn't make sense. The OT

Don't commit murder.

Why has Islam got such violence tendencies?

Woodhill · 11/04/2016 21:37

Violent

sportinguista · 11/04/2016 21:49

I've no idea, I think the only people who truly understand why Islam is the way it is are Muslims themselves. I really think it is hard for us to put ourselves into that mindset. I can't fathom hating anyone just because they are a different religion to me. I don't think I hate anyone that much. It's unfathomable.