Sex Attacks in Cologne and other European Cities Part IX

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Women in the UK must be free to work, travel and live free of sexual violence

Recently, women across the EU were subjected to mass sexual assaults of a type previously unknown in Europe. We demand that Government brings forward proposals for extra measures to uphold UK women's rights, safety & freedom, and to expand police understanding-recognition-response to such behaviour.

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It just never ends.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3497672/Justice-migrant-camp-Refugees-Greece-Macedonia-border-drag-push-man-accused-raping-seven-year-old-child-turn-authorities.html

oh shabby awful and the girl behind, being held in such an awful way? Why? So awful.

Yes, I noticed that, although they say they cant verify it was her that was attacked. Still no way to handle a child.

sad to say i just can't click. i've been reading threads on german expat forums and elsewhere and clicking to one after another horrific story and i'm done in to be honest. it's like taking the absolute worst of life here and magnifying basically because you're taking disaffected young men, removing elders, community, accountability etc and voila. totally predictable mess.

Horrific stories. The hand-wringing liberals (Angela Merkel et al) seem to think that bringing these migrants over and modelling Western life to them is all that's necessary. They'll transmogrify into good Europeans as if by magic. Problem is, most of these migrants have a religious faith that indoctrinates them that Western ways are evil and should be destroyed.

That poor girl. Why are they dragging her like that? In exactly the same manner as her alleged attacker. It's bad enough what happened to her but then to be treated like that. Even if she isn't the victim, it's no way to handle a small child. Makes me sad and angry.

If he can do that to a little girl in a camp packed full of so many people what chance does any girl have when just going about her daily business in any place.

Honeybadger 1000 times YES! A brilliant post.

The authorities are putting women's (and girls) safety and lives at risk for a political indeology. They are putting the rights of migrants before the rights of 50% of their electorate.

It is fucking shameful. The people making these decisions know that it won't affect them or their lives. Typical NIMBYism and dont do as I do, do as I say attitude.

As for Merkel, so much for female solidarity. Why are they not representing the people that voted them in?

The Tories were elected with circa 35% of the vote but over 50% of the population want out of Europe and an end to unregulated immigration.

It's like reality is just a trivial inconvenience to be ignored, no matter the consequences, in order to uphold ideology

I couldn't have put it better myself ...

it's like taking the absolute worst of life here and magnifying basically because you're taking disaffected young men, removing elders, community, accountability etc and voila. totally predictable mess

YY and

The authorities are putting women's (and girls) safety and lives at risk for a political indeology. They are putting the rights of migrants before the rights of 50% of their electorate

YY

exactly Helpful. I've been thinking this for a long time.

What an excellent post Helpful. Bang on.

removing elders, community, I'm not sure this is a bad thing, these are the things that have instilled the idea that how these men treat women is the right way to behave. Without these influences maybe it will be easier to teach these young men that women should be treated with respect and have the right to be treated as equals.

but who is teaching them now shabby and who is going to teach them!

They could always be handed a leaflet with cartoon drawings on.

Seriously though, if they have been brought up by their elders and community to believe that women are worthless then they move away from these to new countries where women are equal then its up to these countries to teach them how to behave. We have all seen how they are treated when committing these crimes eg: its their culture etc, we must stop sweeping these things under the carpet and treat them the same as any other person of that country. Maybe some organised classes to inform them of the laws and expectations of their new countries and the consequences of punishment if they don't comply.

trouble is we've had it rammed down our throats as a society that it is cultural implying that we have to put up with it. the accusation of being racist means professionals tip toe around.

I think so many people now are seeing the implications of mass immigration and the effects it can have on whole communities and more and more are realising that we CAN have concerns without being racist. If people are prepared to accept and respect the laws and morals of their chosen country I believe they will find they are more welcome.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35838735 European Union negotiators and Turkey have agreed a draft deal over the migrant crisis, which must now be approved by the 28 EU leaders

www.ft.com/cms/s/0/94314ec0-eca7-11e5-9fca-fb0f946fd1f0.html#axzz43GsWe13k EU and Turkey agree deal to return migrants

removing elders, community, I'm not sure this is a bad thing, these are the things that have instilled the idea that how these men treat women is the right way to behave.

I don't think that is the case. I think mass sexual assault, for instance, is more likely where the community has broken down, whether that is in the big cities in North Africa (Cairo, Tangiers...) or in Europe. They all know well enough that this is not the right way to treat women, but some of them feel they can get away with it.

They all know well enough that this is not the right way to treat women, but some of them feel they can get away with it

Lets face it, they did after cologne.

I wonder how many would commit abuse - anywhere - if punishment was castration?

maybe it will be easier to teach these young men that women should be treated with respect and have the right to be treated as equals I'm trying to be optimistic but don't see many positives. The problem with teaching equality is that it's not as simple as handing out a few leaflets or asking people to attend a class. In order to understand our attitudes towards women, it's also important to comprehend how they are linked to other aspects of our culture such as democracy (people have say in how they live their lives) and how democracy is linked to individualism (one individual, one vote), and therefore how both are linked to human rights (each person, and not the group, is valued), and therefore liberalism (you can do what you like within reason/law), and therefore free speech (you can say what you like because of the human rights, and democracy, and the valuing of each individual). Even the negative things in our culture fit into this cycle. So, for example, we view women in pluralistic ways, which means that some women are SAHMs while others are pole dancers, while others are career women. We accept multiple identities and multiple self-expressions. This leads directly to things like allowing for male doctors to view and treat female patients and vice versa (thinking here about Afghanistan where women are not allowed to be treated by a male doctor but there are no female doctors to treat them because women aren't allowed to work!). Basically, you need to understand all of that if you are to understand the West's attitude toward women. You can't simply ask people to rock up to a class where they see a few line drawings or are told a few things, and then assume that they will now know how to treat women equally to men.

up to these countries to teach them how to behave. We have all seen how they are treated when committing these crimes eg: its their culture etc, we must stop sweeping these things under the carpet and treat them the same as any other person of that country

The massive problem we have is a vocal, self-satisfied swathe of society that's been brainwashed.

They have obediently swallowed the propaganda that 'racist' means:

*pointing out that some cultures treat women as secondary and that's not acceptable and to be respected, it's a Bad Thing

*criticising unacceptable and sexist ideologies instead of patronisingly lauding anything practised by other cultures as the same as or superior to enlightened western equality laws

*not pandering to bigoted and sexist practises because your utter terror of being called the 'R' word overshadows your ability to protect and uphold the rights of women to remain unmolested, even while holding down jobs or appearing in public with bare heads

*using your brain to formulate an opinion which accepts the nuances of a complex situation over X-factor style emotional incontinence in the hope that being the Saddest Person in the Room/Studio/Mumsnet will get you a cheap round of applause from the other meerkats

So what do we do? We can't let them dictate how we dress, when we can go out, how we conduct our lives, give up our freedom. If we let the situation continue it will eventually lead to all these things, if not for us, for our children and grandchildren.