Sex Attacks in Cologne and other European Cities Part VII

[januarybrown1998]

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The events of NYE were shocking enough; the subsequent minimising and under-reporting were an affront to women's rights to equality across Europe.

It's a testament to the tenacity and commitment of this community that we are at thread VII; do join the discussion and feel free to share the links and letters to anyone you think may wish to be part of this important debate.

We are currently awaiting the approval of a petition to parliament.

Shortly we will post links for those who want to take a proactive part in safeguarding the rights of all UK women to live in freedom from the fear of mass sexual assault as we sadly saw in NYE and reports of which are finally seeing daylight across Europe.

Or by politicians. I respect Jeremy Corbyn, I'm glad we have him, I'm even glad he's touring the migrant camps. The pictures on the BBC show him surrounded by men migrants, looking sadly at a toddler. No pictures of him looking at the women there - is he even allowed to talk to them as a strange male? Is he next going to visit one of the many women's refuges in Britain? How about just wander around on any British town's streets and listen to the harassment that young girls get? Visit Cologne and talk to the victims of the attacks? Visit Sweden and talk to the young girls there who get raped and are not even allowed to describe their attackers?

www.liberation.fr/planete/2016/01/18/agressions-exploitation-harcelement-sexuel-le-lot-des-femmes-refugiees-en-europe_1427201

«À l’hôtel en Turquie, un des hommes travaillant avec le passeur, un Syrien, m’a dit que si je couchais avec lui, je ne paierais pas ou que je paierais moins. Bien entendu, j’ai dit non, c’était dégoûtant. Nous avons toutes connu la même chose en Jordanie», raconte Hala, une jeune Syrienne de 23 ans originaire d’Alep. Une réalité déjà bien connue par les ONG, mais que ces témoignages viennent de nouveau attester.

www.liberation.fr/planete/2016/01/22/apres-les-viols-la-banalisation-du-discours-antifeministe_1428397 on feminism and Cologne

I am still utterly astonished that, given the shocking danger of travel, the cost and insecurity of paying s people smuggler, the desperate conditions in camps, the fear of ending up in an apparently far right or racist country and the possibility of deep cultural misunderstanding, why the Gulf States have not been leant on through back door channels to take refugees.

Khalaf Al Habtoor is the only person who has spoken about this shameful situation and deafening silence.

YY to that January. Is the same group in the UN that is urging Europe to do more also urging them?

WidowWadman I honestly don't know, are you sure the comparison is a fair one?

And should it really matter as long as the content is true?

palebluedotty wrote What I do resent are the actions of whatever minority it is who are staging illegal attempts nightly to enter the Channel Tunnel, breaking into lorries and so on. If they are already attempting to start their life in the UK by criminal behaviour when they are presently in a safe country that will offer them asylum then I think it reasonable to debate what sort of people they are and why we would want them. There are many people around the world who apply to enter the UK legally every year and this group of men in Calais would forcibly and illegally jump ahead of them.

I agree with that and I would add that I also resent seeing the drivers, some of whom are women, being intimidated by people who could perfectly well stay in France.

Calais is in lock down, lots of young men stormed the ferry.

JanuaryBrown said: "... why the Gulf States have not been leant on through back door channels to take refugees."

None of the Gulf countries want refugees. When Bahrain was asked why they were not accepting refugees (who, afterall, would be more comfortable going to a place where the climate, food, language, religion was very similar) stated that they did not want foreigners entering their country in large numbers. It would unbalance their society and upset their people. And this from a fellow Arab!

According to the Saudi ministry of foreign affairs, they have taken in 2.5 million Syrians since the start of the conflict, just not as refugees

I've never heard of Junge Freiheit before, but the first report of this seems to have been in a local paper, which claims to show the original letter from the pool authorities, but also quotes discussion on local social media as casting doubt on the contents: www.wochenendspiegel.de/soziale-netzwerke-asylanten-vorfaelle-in-zwickauer-schwimmbaedern-werden-heiss-diskutiert/

Bild claims that the municipal authorities have confirmed that the letter is authentic: www.bild.de/regional/chemnitz/fluechtling/fluechtling-onaniert-in-schwimmhalle-44254848.bild.html

Huff Post Germany is dubious: www.huffingtonpost.de/2016/01/23/fluechtling-zwickau-schwimmbad_n_9058196.html

Yes I know January, there was an interesting thread a while back as to why the gulf states dont want them. BUt its deplorable.

• Hospitality is a common feature that characterizes Muslims around the world. This is why they are often perceived as very generous people. For most Muslims, hospitality lies at the heart of who they are. Families judge themselves and each other by their generosity to guests when they entertain. Guests are welcomed into the home and shown kindness regardless of whether they are relatives, friends, neighbors, or strangers.

Islam stresses the entertainment of guests. Muhammad, their prophet, said, "When a person is invited to a feast and he does not accept (or reply), he disobeys Allah" (according to Abu Dawud, Hadith 26.5, of the traditions of prophet Mohammad). Social functions are recommended in which people should eat together, "Gather together at your meals and you will be blessed therein" (26:14).

poster TwistedReach Sat 23-Jan-16 18:40:07

Ypu would speak to some, foster carers or sw many are not 15 but in fact young adult men who get told to say they are 15 in order to secure the rights that come with becoming a unaccompanied minor

Many foster carers will now not take teenage migrants as sw have no May of really finding how old old someone is apart from a check list

news.sky.com/story/1628458/port-of-calais-closed-as-migrants-storm-ship

www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/europe/100273-160123-france-s-calais-port-shuts-after-migrants-jump-on-british-ferry

BungoWomble Sat 23-Jan-16 19:00:49

I agree. However I wont hold my breath that what you have said re the women has even crossed his mind.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3413566/Port-Calais-closed-migrants-storm-harbour-make-Spirit-Britain-ferry-desperate-bid-reach-UK.html

well dressed girl holding a banner laughing in the middle of that scrum of young men.

This 15 year old was going to be with his sister not a foster carer.
There were experienced child mental health professionals who are very used to working with social workers and foster carers involved in this.
There are unaccompanied minors in the camp. That is a fact.

If anyone has a spare moment, I found this gem of a vid this evening. It's a TV interview of an elderly Arab gentleman who is telling Arabs about themselves and how their society is holding them back. He praises the West and says it is "the West that produced prosperity in the value, liberties and dignity of human beings. Tremendous change occurred in the West."

Gourmet - I just don't take this publication with a very clear right wing agenda to be a reliable source.
How can you be sure they report the truth?

Meanwhile I read in the local paper of the region I grew up in of frequent arson attacks on refugee shelters, neo Nazis walking the streets as "Buergerwehr" with the aim to intimidate. There has been a whole part of Leipzig which is largely inhabited by left wingers been smashed up by neo Nazis which came from one of their weekly islamophobia demonstrations.
Don't read much about those criminal activities in the publications which are praised on this thread for their fearless reporting of facts.

Longway your first link also clearly mentions doubts in the veracity of the claims in that letter. The letter most likely has been received, but that doesn't mean that the writer of the letter has given a truthful account and has not simply had a political motive for writing it.

Especially as exclusions from swimming pools seem to be a popular topic at the moment.

Help Interesting video. I think the speaker is Ibrahim Al-Buleihi, described in Wikipedia as "a Saudi liberal writer, thinker and philosopher who is currently a member of the Saudi Shura Council [who] has held a range of positions in government and business throughout his life. Aside from his position on the Shura Council, he is involved in a variety of organizations in Saudi civil society. While he is a devout Muslim, he is highly critical of the way Islam is publicly practiced and the degree to which modern Muslim societies are governed by it. The central concern of his writings is the relative decline of Arab and Islamic civilization, compared to the other civilizations of the world. From his studies he has concluded that Western Civilization has several deep cultural principles that make it more dynamic, more open-minded and therefore able to develop faster, through empowering individuality and independent thinking. These principles developed in the West over centuries, beginning in Ancient Greek philosophy and gaining power in the Age of Enlightenment."

There's another clip of him .

WillBeatJanuary Yes I've seen the pics. These people live in absolutely appalling conditions in The Jungle. It's cold and it's dank. And yet, they are in France and could hv applied for sanctuary on their arrival. They could hv started off the process a long time ago, been given proper shelter and some way down the road they would have received their 'papers' which allows travel within the EU. Question is: why are they so reluctant to enter into the process in France or Germany?
Questions on a postcard please.

Help, that's a question I've been asking for some time.

Widow, the 'right wing ' have been the only ones consistently reporting on the issues with migrants. The traditional left news outlets have at best ignored and at worst lied about what is happening throughout Europe.

Thank you for that clip, LongWay. I vote Ibrahim Al-Buleihi for President of the whole of Arabia.

EVERYONE, please take a look at the 2 vids posted here by LongWayRound and me upthread; they have lifted my spirits somewhat. As this scholarly Saudi gentleman says "We Arabs are backward but we dont know it! Oil would have been worthless if it had not been for the technology and know-how of the people from the West, the invention of the car, plane, etc."

WidowWadman I understand your point but equally, can we rely on the mainstream sources to report stories like this given their form so far