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Brexit: what would happen to EU citizens living in UK?

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marghini · 13/01/2016 19:07

I am a EU citizen and I have been living, working and paying taxes in the UK for a while.

I am really concerned about what would happen to the EU citizens who built a life for themselves and settled here in the UK in case of a Brexit.

Do you think all EU citizens already living in the UK would be pushed out? Or perhaps the government would just stop allowing further EU immigration?

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3in1swimsoap · 28/06/2016 20:03

*leave

Girlgonewild · 28/06/2016 20:07

Fawful, also pension providers particularly work pension keep your details for decades and decades from age 16 to retirement age and beyond in many cases so worth writing to those and ex employers. Remember there is a right under the Data Protectio Act 1998 on payment of £10 for you to see records held about you by other people although I am not saying in all cases they will still have records going back 20 years.

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 28/06/2016 20:19

I feel really despondent and pretty stupid now for not realising that making a home here and raising my family all in good faith would live me, one day, in some sort of bureaucratic immigration pickle.

If you'ld have done it before people would have told you there's no need and to put away your tinfoil had

even leave didn't see a leave victory coming!

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 28/06/2016 20:20

hat

Fawful · 28/06/2016 20:23

Thanks v much everyone! Smile
I'll just have to search for my hols bookings, and I'll stick to the last 5/6 years paperwork, then. I've only had one employer since 1999 so it will make things easy on the job front. My bank statements will reveal that I have some credit card debt that I'm forever paying off, but nothing too unmanageable, so hope it'll be ok. (Please let me know if anyone knows differently...)
Thanks again! Flowers

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 28/06/2016 20:27

Debt is no problem unless you were self employed or a student.

If you were a student or self employed then you need to show that you had health insurance (full, not cheapo) or at the very least, savings to support yourself & private dentist etc

But if you were employed, you're good! you can have used the NHS and it doesn't matter if you had debt

As I said before, DO NOT SECOND GUESS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR! and submit whatever they've asked for. Bank statements showing debt might not be a problem, they'll show you were living/working/shopping here.

Fawful · 28/06/2016 20:46

Makes sense - it's about treaty rights etc... Thanks v much!

3in1swimsoap · 28/06/2016 21:18

Dh just found some information about British citizenship for DC born to parents who have been exercising their EEA free movement rights

Children of EEA nationals

Some children born in the United Kingdom to EEA and Swiss nationals will be British citizens automatically. However, changes in the law mean that different rules apply depending on when a child was born.

ï‚· A child born in the United Kingdom before 2/10/2000 to an EEA national parent will be a British citizen if the parent was exercising EC Treaty rights at the time of birth.

A child born in the United Kingdom to an EEA national after 30 April 2006 will be a British citizen if their parent had been in the United Kingdom exercising EC Treaty rights in accordance with the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2006 for more than 5 years or has indefinite leave to remain

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/483729/MN1_Guide_December_2015.pdf p.7and 8

www.gov.uk/government/publications/application-to-register-child-under-18-as-british-citizen-form-mn1

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 28/06/2016 21:28

Use the citizenship checker I linked earlier with their details, that'll give you a proper answer

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 28/06/2016 21:28

www.gov.uk/check-british-citizen

Fawful · 29/06/2016 20:08

Yes! Saw it too & it made me v happy!

'Our schools are the places in which we shape our future as a nation. Our teachers and school leaders can help young people make sense of dramatic changes and build their own plans. To do this, we need clarity, swiftly. Please do not ignore the impact of the EU referendum result on the next generation.'

mathanxiety · 29/06/2016 21:05

NowWhat, do you know what an endowment is, and are you seriously suggesting that universities rely on student tuition to pay their costs?

OpenMindedSceptic · 29/06/2016 22:04

Adult

Would a SAHM (last 7 years) be able to apply for permanent residency? I've read the forms but am no wiser!

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 29/06/2016 22:09

Yes, and also being on benefits (just like debt) isn't necessarily a negative as far as the EEAPR form goes, it shows settlement

However they've picked on students and the self employed since the rule change in 2015 for some reason Sad

OpenMindedSceptic · 29/06/2016 22:20

Adult

That's great, thanks for answering. One more question (well two actually!)
What category would I fall into (as I am not employed, SE, student etc) and is my husband - who is a British Citizen- my sponsor Confused ?

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 29/06/2016 22:29

If you are qualifying in your own right you shouldn't need a sponsor or the sponsor sections

I don't know your personal details, but follow the form and do what it says. Only go down the sponsor route if it specifically tells you to

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 29/06/2016 22:33

If you were a SAHM then things like any tax credits or child benefit etc you had will be important. And get a GP registration letter for your kids plus a school letter if they're old enough

I'm not an expert in it though
Follow the form, fill in the sections it tells you to not the ones you think should apply to you

OpenMindedSceptic · 29/06/2016 22:47

Yes I can sort those out. Thanks for all your help Adult !

MariscallRoad · 29/06/2016 23:10

Fawful the children have right to have education in a civilised country. I do not understand what is going on after the referendum because things have so drastically chnaged . I never expected this could happen. I am happy you help each other in this thread. It is very long since I got my UK passport and regulations have changed since then.

MariscallRoad · 30/06/2016 14:18

I am not lawyer and have not studied Law but find this article interesting
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/30/politics-brexit-unlawful-eu-uk
Forget the politics – Brexit may be unlawful

Fawful · 30/06/2016 14:29

What I was quoting below in the 2nd paragraph, mariscall, was an extract from the letter written by the head teachers to the PM, the one you linked to. I thought it was v kind, but I don't think it will have an impact. Still, v thoughtful. Smile

Oibeer · 30/06/2016 14:29

That is a very interesting article MariscallRoad

I have wondered all along how it can possibly be lawful to let people legally enter a country, settles, pay into their pensions buy property etc and then change the rules without consulting and including in the decision making process those most affected by the changes.

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 30/06/2016 14:34

I have wondered all along how it can possibly be lawful to let people legally enter a country, settles, pay into their pensions buy property etc and then change the rules without consulting and including in the decision making process those most affected by the changes

People in the legal profession have in the past spoken out about the current Home office rules and rule changes being unlawful (in regard to non EEA people), but without managing to sucessfully challenge it.

The HO has gotten away with pulling the rug from people who were following the rules up until the rules suddenly changed.

So it may be technically unlawful, as are potentially things the HO ALREADY does to non EEA people, but that hasn't stopped them from doing it

Oibeer · 30/06/2016 14:39

Adult could I just say that I think you are superb and your help on this thread is second to none (I name change for privacy reasons) I will remember your words at every step of the way in securing my family's future. Though they do give me a chill unMNty x

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