Brexit: what would happen to EU citizens living in UK?

[marghini]

I am a EU citizen and I have been living, working and paying taxes in the UK for a while.

I am really concerned about what would happen to the EU citizens who built a life for themselves and settled here in the UK in case of a Brexit.

Do you think all EU citizens already living in the UK would be pushed out? Or perhaps the government would just stop allowing further EU immigration?

Fawful when I had applied for naturalisation many years ago I had phoned the service what do I do with information that I feel is relevant but I am not asked. They told me to include this in a section inside the application and extpand it in additional page if necessary or provide a covering letter..

I'm starting to get worried that I need to give proof of residence for all of the 20 years I have lived here... I arrived in January 1996. I've only kept my P60s from 2000. Not sure that I have a lot of bills left from these days either! Surely if I have the last 5 years worth anyway it should be ok? I think I read it might not be.
And oh my God, I'm going to enjoy filling in the exact dates of every single visit I made to the continent - about two or three times per year for 20 years!

And thanks v much for your precious help!

You only need 5 years for EEAPR
(and I use the term "only" LOSELY! because as you say, you need a lot of detail and supporting docs for EEAPR)

And then once you have tha your card is your proof of residency/settlement

Fawful, I know it's probably the most overwhelming form you'll ever fill out. Just follow these steps to get started and you'll be fine:

1. Read through it and write down which sections it is telling you to fill out
2. Write down what supporting documents you need for those sections
3. Gather your documents

Then you're half way there, the rest is just filling in the same info that's on your documents.

Re travel, have you got access to your old email accounts? you can use the search function to pull up old airline confirmation emails

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/22/will-europeans-be-free-to-stay-in-the-uk-after-brexit

It's this sentence that's making me doubt that only 5 years worth of paperwork is necessary in my case: 'In practice proving continuous residency for five years is not straightforward. “If you’ve been made redundant, if you’ve had a sabbatical, had study leave or travelled, it can be difficult,” says Rollason.

For those in the UK for more than 10 or even 20 years, applying for permanent leave to remain in the UK after Brexit could also be a challenge if paperwork such as P60s have not been kept.'

Yes the EEAPR requires more than just living here for 5 years
They made it harder last year and applied those new rules retrospectively to previous years (e.g. needing full health insurance if a student or self employed)

But for now you need to submit 5 years and 5 years only, go by the instructions from the HO itself

Faw between moving house many times as a student and singleton in London, changing jobs, two pregnancies etc. I would be lucky to find 3of the P60 I have accrued in 20 years.

In that article they're not just talking about PR, they're also talking about PLR, which is not quite the same thing

Right now you can apply for EEAPR

We'll go with the five years then Adult

Don't worry, in the absense of P60s you can put in supporting docs: A NI print out ( I ordered one and it goes back years), pay slips, contracts of employment, letters from employers etc, bank statements with your salary going in highlighted.

If you have some and it's just gaps, and you were earning in those years, you can find other evidence to show it's just lost and you were earning and paying NI

also things like if you qualified for working tax credits that year it might help to show you were earning and declaring it

e.g. each year my last payslip of the money year (usually march or end of april) shows how much I've earnt and payed accumulated over the year in the corner.. pretty much all the info that'ld be in a P60

Fawful Bills don't have to be all of them. Anyone of those would be OK Council tax, electricity, water. If you have kept the child benefit letters or any of them. I had only put 5 years P60s and statements from IR.

They had asked me mom's and dad's dob and other things that went back to ancestors. I told them as much as I knew. Take time to carefully check all U need to tell them, keep notes what you want them to know and read them several times before you draft them.

Adult one more question, if you don't mind.

My dc were all born before 2009 in the UK and dh and I had lived in the UK for at least 10 years by the time they were born.

Do my dc qualify for British citizenship or don't they? During the 10 years before my dc were born I was either studying in the UK or in employment.
Thanks again.

Remind me 3 in 1, is their other parent British?

If not, then no they're not british, not since 1983, before 1983 you could be British if your non British parents were settled here before you were born here. But you might be able to apply for naturalization for them if you naturalize, however because you naturalized AFTER they were born, they will probably only be temporary citizens, and their British passport only valid until they turn 18

www.gov.uk/check-british-citizen
you can check if you or your children are british citizens here

No he is not, he is also from a EU country.

We are applying for Indefinite leave to remain for dh, me and dc.

Then, hopeful when this has been granted we apply for citizenship for all dc.

Are you suggesting that if we apply for citizenship for dc now, they will loose it when they are 18?

I just want to cry, this is such a nightmare.

If you naturalise as a family after they were born, yes, the passport they get back may state that their citizenship is only until they are 18, sadly, yes. I don't know what happens then, they reapply in their own right I guess

ILR isn't he same as EEAPR

*Then, hopefully when this has been granted we apply for citizenship for all of us

My previous post sounded like I had at least 10 dc, which I don't

Oh Adult, I am sorry to latch onto you here but would you mind explaining the difference between the two? Or was this explained upthread, I can't keep up. Thank you ever so much.

Whilst we're still in the EU, and you are from the EEA, it's he EEAPR form you need I think, not ILR

I'm not entirely sure but I think it's to do with the route, if you are non EEA then you go for ILR, if you're EEA you go straight for EEAPR, and then you can apply for citizenship.

I think.

You can't really apply for ILR right now, because technically, you already have it IYKWIM

But you can apply for PR, which is proof that you are settled and resident here.

All EU passport holders currently have leave to reside, but not all would qualify for PR

Got it. Merci beaucoup

I feel really despondent and pretty stupid now for not realising that making a home here and raising my family all in good faith would live me, one day, in some sort of bureaucratic immigration pickle.