Brexit: what would happen to EU citizens living in UK?

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I am a EU citizen and I have been living, working and paying taxes in the UK for a while.

I am really concerned about what would happen to the EU citizens who built a life for themselves and settled here in the UK in case of a Brexit.

Do you think all EU citizens already living in the UK would be pushed out? Or perhaps the government would just stop allowing further EU immigration?

Sorry I meant to say the cost of private schools abroad can cost less than half of THEIR salary, not of our salary.

It's quite frightening keeping the public waiting after the referendum. It's funny how they haven't prepared for anything.
And who will get he blame if things get worse.

Like Cameron said so many times (making it VERY clear) The PEOPLE have voted for what they want.
Ok right, THE PEOPLE.

University funding:

American university endowments listed in billions of dollars

British universities' endowments listed in millions of pounds

Does anybody know what will happen to EU nationals already living in the UK? Will they be required to apply for citizenship what if they can't pass the life in the UK test? Do they have to pay £1200 to become a citizen? Or what will they become? Is it to be done before October Article 50?

WHY haven't they prepared for anything?
WHEN WILL THE PUBLIC BE TOLD?

Yes the people voted, but on an empty contract, what will we get? ?

It is unfair to say that it was the people's vote, when nothing was placed on the table.
Is this the old days?
Is this what we will be getting from now on? Unanswered questions?
I really do NOT want to hear anymore that it was the people's decision, if there was nothing placed on the table.

I have posted on here a link to the Government's pre-election long document on Article 50. Loads was put on the table by all sides. However of the four types of departure we have not yet decided which one as we cannot control which the other 27 states will give us. This is the uncertainty we remainers knew would be there. The Brexiters thought the departure from the EU exciting but they cnanot know the options either.

One option is we join the EEA subject to EU laws under the EEA Agreement ilke Norway. We accept free movement of people nad goods. There is not much chance that will apply as the one thing the leavers want is much less immigration.

So we could do a deal like Switzerland has with the EU which is not in the EEA. However Switzerland has had to accept free movement of people too and they just had a vote and don't want it so that deal is scuppered.

So that leaves us negotiating over the years for a separate set of arrangements which will mean no free movement of people. In my view it is unlikely those people living here who are not British citzens but currently are here lawfully will be allowed to stay. I would not panic about anything yet but keep reading the newspapers every day and the Government websites.

If Boris Johnson becomes the next leader in October remember he is quite pro immigrant. It is not as if those who voted for Brexit voted for some racial hatred type people with this referendum.

Khizra, helt enig !!! Oh, you are applying for RC, that is valid for 5 years, so even if your husband gets the RC the only question is what is going to happen after 5 years.
As mentioned David Cameron has resigned but will say on until October this year, that's when his successor will take over. To get out of EU the PM will need to initiate Article 50 which Cameron said that he won't do, it will be up to his successor.
The referendum is not legally binding, so the new PM has to decide to go thru with it not, if he does then it will take us 2 years to get out of EU and if not then we remain in EU.
Just like you, I am confused as well that getting out of EU, what does it mean for us who are from EEA.
What ever it is, at least nothing to worry for, for 2 years and we wait and see what happens
As you know by now that people are petitioning for a new EU referendum which will be discussed in Parliament on Tuesday, so who knows and fingers crossed that we might get a second referendum
Just have to wait and see, just apply for the residence card and you will have at least 2 years to figure out what to do, we are doing the same
Lykke til

www.thesun.co.uk/news/1337127/migrants-fears-over-what-happens-to-them-now-after-britain-chose-brexit-in-the-eu-referendum/

Nowwhat You sound very proud indeed of the achievements of these elite units. Could I ask if you have a qualification from one of the top universities?

No I dont. Not one of those in the world tables. I have a degree and masters from unis in the top 25 in this country though.

For all the difference it makes.

That was not my point. It is not personal to me.

My point was everyone in this country who voted remain is literally going batshit crazy and are of the opinion that the EU was responsible for all of our prosperity and achievements when it has only existed since the Maastricht Treaty came into effect in late 1993 FFS.

People are saying our Universities wont survive without the elite from the EU when the global shows that our universities are a force to be reckoned with and the rest from the EU hardly get a mention at all.

Alexander did you read the comments on that article? Some excellent trolling by "Carl Racist" .

It's all bollocks though, no one has a clue. It's going to be far more difficult to decide who stays and who goes than they are admitting (and they probably won't get the choice anyway: looks to me like we will either end up staying or join the EEA).

Well it might be true I won't be deported as such, but in two years time, my workplace will find itself illegally employing me if my only 'right to work' is my French passport (as it is now), so something will need to happen, or I'm in trouble. I don't know if my kids being British citizen will make a difference.
And I don't want to rely on promises. As my boyfriend says, hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

Freedom of movement - the ability to work in a different country is very much tied to free trade.

People whose trade is oranges ( actual goods) must be able to be on a level field with those whose trade us a service industry.

Maria Yeaah that's true that's why I was saying to my husband we have 2years let's see what happens.. Uansett så er vi kjørt hardt hehehe.. Vi får se hva som skjer videre.. Det jeg virkelig beskymrer meg over er at vi ikke må reise tilbake til Norge da det blir litt vanskelig for han å lære språket og etc han har tilpasset seg bra her men men det er jo litt for tydelig å si noe... Men jeg anbefaler deg å søke PR til mannen din så fort som mulig det blir vanskelig etterhvert.. Masse lykke til du også..

Khizra, det beskymrer meg også at vi ikke må reise tilbake til Norge siden jeg har the same problem, mannen min må lære språket også og mannen min tilpasset seg bra her også - har jobb, venner osv.
Men som du sa, det er jo altfor tydelig å si noe.
Min manns PR ferdig oktober 2017, så vi må vente til neste år før vi kan søke om PR. Vi har tenkt på å bruke tidlig i begynnelsen av neste år som folk sier at HO er underbemannet så kanskje ta lengre enn seks måneder for vår søknad for PR
Let's hope that there is no need to worry and us, you and all EU national already living here get to stay

It looks benefits, healthcare and pensions for British abroad (say in France or Spain) may go despite the Convention but it might help with a right to stay in the country according to this link www.connexionfrance.com/Vienna-Convention-1969-expats-rights-residence-Brexit-17867-view-article.html

Great link Girlgonewild, thanks!

If you have been here more than 8 to twelve years with permanent residency or uk citizenship its alright, but if you are here from past few years say like 2 or 3 , then you may have to live here as government will set income bar high around minimum 35k pounds per annum and many benefits would be scraped off as per new rules, but you will have all the freedom to come and visit and go. Schools might get new rules never know, whats hidden

ADVICE FOR EU (AND EEA) NATIONALS IN THE UK: APPLY FOR A UK "REGISTRATION CERTIFICATE" TO SECURE YOUR RIGHT TO LIVE AND WORK IN THE UK AFTER BREXIT.

This registration certificate remains valid for 5 years - even after Brexit! After that you can easily apply for permanent residency.

www.gov.uk/eea-registration-certificate

user what's the difference between the registration certificate and the permanent residence card?
It looks like they are asking for the same thing anyway.

amicissimma is right. I found this in the www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/354 I hope it will be helpful. It says
'The government’s paper 'The Process for Withdrawing from the European Union' argues that British citizens in the EU should not assume that rights acquired under free movement rules 'would be guaranteed' if the UK were to vote to leave the EU. However, in such a circumstance. international law would guarantee the rights of Britons living and working in EU member states. Under a principle enshrined by the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties 1969, withdrawal from a treaty releases the parties from any future obligations to each other but does not affect any rights or obligations acquired under it before withdrawal. This is backed up by research conducted by the House of Commons Library[7]'.

PlatoTheGreat This is explained here www.gov.uk/eea-registration-certificate hope this is helpful

user what's the difference between the registration certificate and the permanent residence card?

Looks like its something you can apply for if you don't qualify for a PR card, I think you go for PR if you can, and if you can't go for this

You do not need a registration cert in order to apply for a PR card.

But anyway, won't registration certs be invalid after we leave anyway, the only thing that'll really help you at that point (if they take a hard line) is a PR card or citizenship

After that you can easily apply for permanent residency.

where on the EEAPR application does it say that a reg cert makes it easier?
You would still have to have met the criteria for the 5 qualifying years (including having had full health insurance if you were self employed or a student during that time)
EEAPR isn't easy, it's not a matter of just having been here for 5 years! And I don't see how a reg cert would make it any easier?

Obv apply for the reg cert if that's all you can get
But try for EEAPR first!

NowWhat, were you aware that the UK joined the EEC in 1973? And that the EU morphed out of the EEC?

i am worried as well.. as i just got pregnant, and my partner does not want to have a relationship with me any more. He is British, so speaking of marriage, thats hard topic. I want to get PR, as i lived here for 5 years already, but he really scared me yesterday night, saying that ill need to move out. i really cant imagine moving anywhere, as this is the only country i have been working and paying tax to.
I hope for the best, that it will be sorted out and we will be able to get PR and citizenship...