Brexit: what would happen to EU citizens living in UK?

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I am a EU citizen and I have been living, working and paying taxes in the UK for a while.

I am really concerned about what would happen to the EU citizens who built a life for themselves and settled here in the UK in case of a Brexit.

Do you think all EU citizens already living in the UK would be pushed out? Or perhaps the government would just stop allowing further EU immigration?

Hello every one
My wife which she is polish will send her PR application next week , am Egyptian and sending my PR application in October 2016 .(as we both leaving and working in uk since 7 years )
Now, as result of uk leaving EU what's the impact of our application
Please some one give me clear answer
Thank you

Hello every one
My wife which she is polish will send her PR application next week , am Egyptian and sending my PR application in October 2016 .(as we both live and working in uk since 7 years )
Now, as result of uk leaving EU what's the impact of our application
Please some one give me clear answer
Thank you

I am Norwegian, an EEA citizen and I am residing in London with my husband and son since 2010.
I have a EEA Residence Card and my husband is Algerian and has a 5 year EEA2 Residence Card ( applied as spouse of a EEA citizen ) which expires next year in September. My husband and I were thinking of applying for permanent residence next year but since UK is out of EU. now I am worried that what is going to happen to us now and if we will be able to apply for permanent residence next year

This is a huge concern for us, ho will Brexit affect us and our application for permanent residence next year

Hi Maria
I have the same case , but my wife will apply for PR (she is polish ) next week and I need to apply for PR on October 2016 (am Egyptian ) and we both qualify for the PR .
If you heard anything regarding this case please update me
Thanks

Hi Florian

You wife is applying next week and you are applying in October this year since UK left EU today but it will take time for new PM and bring in new rules and regulations so I feel you guys shouldn't have a problem as I don't feel that they will bring in new rules and regulations for PR by the time you apply.
My husband and my Residence Card expires September 2017, so we can apply until then and I fear that by then new rules and regulations will be put in to place for PR and my husband and I might have problems getting PR
I will let you know if I hear anything and if you can do the same as well
Best of luck !!!

Hi Maria,
We never know Maria , I start to believe UK went mad and they might change everything within hours .
I will keep you update and you the same
G luck

There will not be enough staff in the Foreign and Commonwealth office to deal with all the PR applications and Passport changes in the years to come, so sit tight and wait for someone to contact you.

Nothing will change until October 2018, at the earliest. The current rules will apply until then.

There is no plan so it is unclear how the rules may change beyond that at the moment.

The financial implications have started though. Who knew the independent experts were just that.

Maria, it is not true - "since UK left EU today ". The UK remains in the EU. It will only leave if the Government decides to follow the refernedum result which it is not legally obliged to do but almost certanily will. We would then leave eithr 2 years after we apply to leave which might take 6 years before we put in an application under article 50 (or could take 2 years, very unlikely) or a different period if we decide not to use article 50 and negotiate a different form of leaving with the other 27 Eu states.

People who want to move freely around the 27 EU states might prefer to become resident in a different EU state and obtain a passport there as it woudl give more choice of coutnries although anyone settled in the UK probably wants to stay here.

I'm in the same boat - EU citizen, married to a Brit, working, paying taxes. Even DS is British! And I was born here which makes it more silly (born to two first generation EU immigrants so didn't have the right to be British by birth as I was born post-1983).

I'm not overly concerned tbh. It's going to take so long to actually leave (this two year timeline is a minimum) and article 50 is unlikely to be invoked till Autumn this year anyway, so that makes it Autumn 2018 at the earliest! Either the UK will honour those living/working here since a certain date and therefore give Leave to Remain, or there will be some kind of visa system.

It'll be annoying in the passport queues though!

As people have pointed out, nothing will change immediately. My dh made the same point as Travelledtheworld, there will not be enough staff to deal with any of this, not all the negotiations and not all the implementation. There is no plan,no starting point for negotiations, no government in place as the Tories wander off to have a leadership contest. I'm Irish and also worried about what will happen. My dh is English, but we are wondering if we should go to Ireland, what sort of country will this become? The tone of the EU debate was so ugly, and I'm sure Scotland will have another go at independence. So in 5 to 10 years time, this will be Little England, a crowd of angry racists crying into their beer and reliving the war and Empire days. Not somewhere I want to be anymore. In the meantime, I've joined the Green Party last night. At least they have some decency and principles. I truly do not think that people already living here would have to leave, the reality is that there is a huge skills gap and simply not enough native born to fill all the jobs. Mind you, the Outers don't seem to care whether they wreck the economy or not!

Hi - Sending all the children of Europe my love - Europe is our children's country don't let it be taken away from them

Sign the petition for a second referendum and change the future - It's going viral and will have to be taken seriously

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215/signatures/new

Take back EU your county and stay in the EU for the sake of your Kids

RosieX

mathanxiety thanks for your reply☺. If I am a Swedish national, can I get a NI number of UK before October 2018 and start job in UK?

It seems to me after reading this blog that negotiation will take two years and if I will register my self in UK before 2018 and start job their it will be much easier then after October 2018 ?

hammad at the moment your rights to free movement are unchanged, you can come here under free movement rules until brexit actually happens (October 2018 or later). The one thing you should bear in mind is that we don't know what will happen after October 2018 (or whatever date brexit actually happens) - it may be that all EU migrants legally present on "brexit day" will get the right to remain permanently, but this is not certain.

Thank you Adulting and everyone for your precious advice. Yes things have changed since I last looked into it!
Thanks for your kind words re: my DS. The taunting didn't seem too vicious, we'll have to see how it goes. DS's whole secondary school held a vote too and 90% voted to remain (no one abstained).

geeka, totally agree. I used to work in a top university lab, and our lab actually employed more people from other EU countries than the UK. This was partly because they were often better educated than UK candidates. Deterring top EU scientists from working in UK research institutions will lower the reputation and attractiveness of UK universities.

I've lived and worked int he UK for 18 years, and because I never married my British partner my children don't have British passports. I don't know whether this will be a problem for them later on e.g. university fees. Any ideas? I'm sure they could get UK citizenship, but TBH I'd rather continue to bring them up as European citizens!

Rosie0987 I signed a while ago. It it had 1,158,715 signiatures and rapidly up. My London Burrough has a 69.9% Remain and 2769 from here signed the petition.

Maria i am norwigan national too and my husband have Belgium f card for 5 years We have already sent out application for my husband for permanent residence it takes 6 months for decision and it will be 6 months in July Så let's see what happens..

geeka, totally agree. I used to work in a top university lab, and our lab actually employed more people from other EU countries than the UK. This was partly because they were often better educated than UK candidates. Deterring top EU scientists from working in UK research institutions will lower the reputation and attractiveness of UK universities.

FanstasyFanGirl are you joking?

If you look at the world university rankings, there are 6 from the UK in the top 20 univeristies in the world and absolutely none from the whole of the rest of the EU.

One university in Paris scrapes in at around 23rd and another French university at 40th place. There are no other EU universities in the top 50 in the world at all.

There are 10 UK universities in the top 50 world universities and only 2 from France and nothing from the rest of the EU.

You are talking bollocks.

World University Rankings

geeka, totally agree. I used to work in a top university lab, and our lab actually employed more people from other EU countries than the UK. This was partly because they were often better educated than UK candidates. Deterring top EU scientists from working in UK research institutions will lower the reputation and attractiveness of UK universities.

FanstasyFanGirl are you joking?

If you look at the world university rankings, there are 6 from the UK in the top 20 univeristies in the world and absolutely none from the whole of the rest of the EU.

One university in Paris scrapes in at around 23rd and another French university at 40th place. There are no other EU universities in the top 50 in the world at all.

There are 10 UK universities in the top 50 world universities and only 2 from France and nothing from the rest of the EU.

You are talking bollocks.

World University Rankings

The rest of the EU needs to improve the quality of its universities and it research, the UK most certainly does not need to. Those rankings speak for themselves.

Hi Florian, I was thinking the same that UK has gone mad and might change things, but if you remember that David Cameron has resigned and has left everything for his successor which won't be appointed until October this year and then it will take time from then to bring in new rules and regulations. I believe it won't happen until UK has left EU, which will take minimum 2 years but will keep you posted.

Hi Girlgonewild, thank you for your advice, it has put me at ease knowing that whatever will happen will happen minimum after 2 years, giving us time to apply for PR next year and decide what to do. Thanks again

Hi Rosie, thank you for the link. I have signed it and forwarded it to my family and friends to sign as well. By now the signatures are 1,243,207

Thanks to all for your advice

Khizra, it is nice to know that the Norwegian citizens staying in the UK besides me.
I wish your husband best of luck. My husband's RC expires October 2017, so we will apply for PR in the beginning of next year as people have been saying that there might not be enough staff at the Home Office to deal with all applications and might take more than 6 months so better to apply 3 - 4 months earlier before the RC expires - fingers crossed all goes well

Hi.
I've been living in UK for a few years now. I've got a Dutch passport which I'd normally use. My question is: If I leave the UK for a holiday and then return, would I be able to use my dutch passport for entering the UK or not?

It's unlikely the rest of the EU will tolerate the UK dragging out leaving for much longer than the set 2 years. German news has gone from "have the British gone insane?" type stuff yesterday to reporting that EU lawyers have been asked to look into ensuring the leaving process is not allowed to drag on longer than absolutely necessary.