Mass sexual assaults in Cologne on New Years Eve

[Cellardoor1]

I've just read this and I'm shocked that such a thing could happen. A group of around 1,000 men gathered and assaulted at least 60 women and girls and also pickpocketed people. Apparently the news wasn't released until now out of fears it could stir up tension as the men appeared to be of Arab/North African appearance, possibly refugees.

abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/cologne-police-chief-condemns-sex-assaults-years-eve-36083833

hashtag armlaenge is trending on Twitter.... (Arms length)

Sorry onthephone it's just that being told I don't know about modern British history is a bit of a red rag to a bull. Not to mention being called "my dear". Sorry

Battersea53 Thank you for posting the video. I think I have seen a version of this before. The din is so loud .... that alone could kill you.

I have also checked out a few other vids related to Tahir Square protests in 2013. Such huge crowds, all men full of hate over something ... terrifying. These are men from my own culture and I know how they are. Thank God I married an English man!

I wonder how the SJWs will respond to this. I suppose that depends on whether the victims were white or not.

Onthephone - the fact is that a lot of the perpetrators of European crimes relating to ISIS etc., are second generation Europeans.

In this case, they were all described as being of Arabic or North African 'descent'.
To me, this is evidence absolute that their originating culture does not integrate into Western society.
If being born here can't guarantee that they adopt our values, then them moving here in the current climate, having been immersed in a prehistoric culture, pretty much guarantees that they won't integrate!

I know it's not PC to say this, but it's a disaster waiting to happen.

What are the SJWs?

onthephone the police arrested 8 men who had refugee papers. They were from North Africa and had been in Germany around 2 years I read. So not part of the recent arrivals but refugees non the less. But does it really matter? We know what culture they are from, a culture that has no regard for women and western values and this is a manifestation of that.

Obviously, not all men from that culture are like this just in case it comes across that I am of that view.

onthephone - is that twitter trend mainly in German?

I feel as though we're in the middle of some huge social experiment

Sadly, the will of those who shout loudest and are strongest will prevail, just as it does in the playground.

Cellar from what I read those men were arrested on the 3rd for a separate attack. The police have said they may or may not have been involved on NYE

Cellar I think it is important whether the men are raised in Germany or elsewhere. So far we have discussed the difference in attitude to women in different cultures, and of course that seems to be what this is about. But if the men involved were brought up and educated in Germany, I want to know that, and I don't want "the refugees" blamed for what may be a failing of the German education system and value sets.

Re the hashtag, I'm not sure if it's trending now as I can't find it! But I'm not very good at working Twitter....

In Roumania I woke up to find a doctor (so educated) from Yemen in my bed.
He was astonished and even offended that I would not automatically let him have sex with me.

This thread.

You know how when a white person does something bad, we don't post loads of examples of everything bad ever done by a white person?

It would be nice to extend that to other ethnic groups too.

Some of the statements made on here about Arabs/Muslims/Asians are stomach-turning, particularly the ones gleefully rubbing their hands about an oncoming race war. Note that the victims of far-right violence are generally women, btw.

Since WW2 has already been mentioned, I would suggest some of you think a bit harder about how chunks of the population were declared "untermenschen".

The fact that you find "gleeful hand rubbing" on this thread says more about you than it does about this thread

Where has anyone posted examples of loads of bad things done by the same group of people? Where has race war been mentioned? I certainly haven't seen any 'gleeful hand rubbing' in this thread. Elsewhere, yes, but not here. Nice attempt to try and shut down discussion though

IPity There has been quite a few examples, had you paid attention. It hss been a predominately liberal thread. RTFT.

IPity - a similar comparison would be the global outrage at the white American police to black Americans.

Don't pull the 'racist' card, please. Please don't. It shuts down all logical discussion about what is unequivocally a singularly cultural and religious issue.

Race has got nothing to do with it. These men's attitudes are culturally determined with its roots in their belief system.

'at the BEHAVIOUR OF white American police to black Americans'.

I have said repeatedly that I see this as a crime by men against women. Full stop. I believe that the reluctance to tackle this head on is less to do with reluctance to deal with any issues of race or culture. And more to do with the fact that, because the victims are women, it is simply not seen as being that serious. That applies whether it's in Germany, America, the Middle East or the uk. The UK's shushed up domestic violence statistics prove that point for instance.

Sadly, the will of those who shout loudest and are strongest will prevail, just as it does in the playground. This is why it's so important to be assertive. I am an immigrant and am regularly amazed at how cowed the indigenous Brits have become with respect to their 'British' culture. They seem ashamed, guilty, silenced, not proud of any of their achievements, don't want to criticise anybody or anything even if the ideas they are criticising are clearly bonkers, tie themselves up in endless cognitive dissonance when trying to resolve unacceptable behaviour...it just goes on and on. Very sad to see. As an immigrant, I am more of an anglophile than the English I know! Only immigrants can seemingly say anything positive about the great British, westernised, liberal values. Sign of the times...

For instance, if the victims had been male, there is no way on this earth that the government would have issued guidance to men about how they should dress, behave and socialise to avoid attack. There round have been lots of fighting talk about how we cannot let criminals change our behaviour and way of life

Excellent post fourmummy!

I'm Irish and find the British to be PC in the extreme! You can't open your mouth for fear of upsetting someone or being arrested for a hate crime or something! The writing is on the wall, but you can't mention it!

Being Irish, I'm well aware that the British people in general are wary of us (rightly so!). But, if the cap fits, then fucking say it! I'm not going to take offence!

IPityThePontipines Please, there has been no gleeful hand rubbing. WW2 has been mentioned, but what is your point? Nor is there anythng "stomach churning" about speaking truthfully re cultural attitudes towards women that have no place in Europe. Every nation has its own character, which is born of attitudes within that society.

I am Arab-born and I can say categorically that the Middle Eastern men are brought up with a sense of entitlement, superiority and aggression. Women are not important in these societies, except for pleasure, procreation and housewife duties.

So please spare us your Leftie guilt. Mature people have to call it as you see it, but you prefer to contort yourself to find an "out" for these men in Cologne. You are the only one whose stomach is churned because you have to face the unpalatable truth that immigrant men from my part of the world will NEVER change their behaviour towards women and you still don't get why. All non-Muslim women are seen as tarts.

I did RTFT, thanks.

No, it is not "pulling the race card" to point out that certain minority groups are discussed in a way that white Europeans never are.

No, I don't see any "unequivocal" evidence as to what has caused this, but then I don't think I can read the minds of an entire population of people.

When people, like noeffingidea upthread are claiming that Merkel is to blame for letting refugees fleeing an horrific war into the country, I don't think that's a hugely liberal statement. Do you?