Rebecca Minnock - on the run with child after court battle

[BreakingDad77]

Is this one of those cases we wont get to the bottom of as to whether she is someone with MH problems or scheming father driving her to them?

I suspect that if RM only gets supervised contact there will be "heartbreaking" pictures of Ethan in tears being pulled away from his "doting" mother.

I know the thread has moved on, but the 3% figure quoted a few pages back is actually the percentage of complaints of rape to the police for which there is evidence that the allegation is false (the Home Office report it comes from is <a class="break-all" href="http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20110218135832/rds.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs05/hors293.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here). The figure can't really be used to estimate the rate of false allegations of abuse in the family court system.

wigglylines your posts make me think you are as deluded as the mother.

Hope Ethan is with his dad now. Poor little chap

The ignorance of those attempting to justify her actions (no love like a mother's blah) is astounding but sadly not surprising.

Sonnyson please don't put bpd and sociopathy in the same category - bpd attracts enough ignorant comments as it is.

The problem is though that consequences for her are also consequences for Ethan. Not good for him to have his mum, who he's spent much of his life with till now (I accept that more recently his time has been split between both parents) taken away from him and in prison.

Bollocks. She should be banged up for what she's done.

Having a child isn't a 'get out jail free' card, you know.

Ethan will be better off away from the scheming, lying cow anyway so no good reason to not lock her up.

If it had been the father who went on the run, you'd be crying out for him to be sent to prison.

Ashtray,

She is displaying characteristics of both.

Are you qualified to diagnose a mental health problem from watching a video clip?

Shelly no, I wouldn't.

Sonnyson what are your qualifications that allow you to diagnose BPD then?

I have no wish to defend RM at all costs. Just feel sorry for Ethan. I hope he's being very well looked after now.

No, but this woman's behaviour over the past few years certainly fits the bill.

Do you pull people up on the numerous threads on here that claim 'my ex is a narcissistic abusive borderline twunt'.

I understand it must be terribly difficult to have bpd, but my sympathy lies with those on the receiving end of their behaviours.

I have not diagnosed her, but the traits are clearly there to see.

You're claiming to identify this condition in someone you haven't even met, and from internet reports of her behaviour. Robust assessment! And I take it then that you have no actual expertise in this area. Not very credible. The daft thing here is that it's indisputable to say the woman has behaved stupidly in running away, and takes no expertise. Deciding you can take it further into psychological diagnoses just isn't supportable.

Which traits are those then?
My daughter has (organic, chromosome disorder) bpd. She is in hospital due to self harming, severe depression and repeated suicide attempts. Although yes I am affected it's not her fault, the only person she hurts is herself. What has Rebecca done that makes you think she has bpd traits? I'm not defending her, I have read the judgments and I can see why decisions were made.
Re the narc stuff, I would never pull people up on their own experiences. I assume you have never been involved with Rebecca and are just associating 'bad behaviour' with a mental health problem which some mners have and could be upset by your post.

Court judgements, her abducting her child and subsequent poor little victim act and complete lack of empathy for her child and the father.

My only expertise is being of the receiving end of someone who is more than likely BDP disordered.

I am not diagnosing her, merely stating that her behaviours display characteristics of someone with the condition.

People with BPD do not lack empathy nor is it part of the diagnostic criteria.

I don't think you even understand what BPD is, let alone understand it well enough to see traits of it in people you haven't even met.

I have never stated that it is someone's fault if they have bpd.

But it is simply not true that the disordered individual is the only person that is hurt by their behaviours.

Actually people that have bpd or that have sociopathic tendencies do lack empathy for those that they hurt.

No, fortunately I have not met her but her shocking behaviour has been made public due to her own shocking behaviour.

Many people have speculated that she must be suffering from mental illness, all I have stated is that she is showing traits of a personality disorder.

It is not fact nor am I trying to give a diagnosis.

There is a significant difference between BPD and someone have borderline traits. Nobody can diagnose a personality disorder in this way but it is fair to say that someone has narcissistic/schizoid/borderline traits. Either way though, it's a bit of a lazy argument - the problems can be described without resorting to name-calling.

The video was hideous to watch. Why on earth was she talking about her decision to run away in front of the child?! That confirms to me her total inability to see how her actions are negatively impacting on him.

Also how dreadful that when he grows up and googles his name, this is what he will find.

BPD is not about lacking empathy.

My point is we don't know what the actual truth is - do we? Just because the courts has seen all available evidence doesn't mean they know the actual truth either or that justice has necessarily been done.

wigglylines, by that token we should abandon the court system. So how would you suggest we deal with issues of this nature? Should we simply assume that any parent who abducts a child must have had good reason to do so?

Yes it's possible that she did lie and has been moumentally stupid. But we're looking at this through the lens of the press, who we know twist things to fit their news agenda.

You may be. But I would hope that most of the people on this thread are looking at this through the lens of the published court judgments. It is evident that the agenda there is the child's well-being.

Yes, a characteristic of bpd is a lack of empathy.