poor baby

[alexa1]

sorry is this has already been posted.
how awful.
this

Some people are inadequate.

I have read the thread but did we ever ascertain whether or not this woman was in fact in an abusive relationship or was the violence just aimed at the baby? It is a very emotive issue as any child dying in this way is disgusting and wasteful and it make us think of our own lives. I know that I would never allow this to happen but that's due to watching my own mum allow men to control her life and abuse her and suffering the consequences of that. If this woman was in fear for her life then maybe I could just about understand her not having the courage to leave but I find it hard to believe that within an 8 week relationship there were not warning signs from day 1 about his behaviour with her child and it was then her choice to carry it on. As for legal responsibility, you sign up for that the minute you fall pregnant I'm afraid. You have a child you take the responsibility for their life and you must and should do everything to protect it and if you don't and knew what could happen then I'm sorry but yes there should be some legal retribution. It is not good enough to say that social services and society in general should get better at protecting today's children if we as parents are not going to bother doing it ourselves. If my non abusive/violent partner picked our child up by his ears and threw him on a bed I wouldn't want to leave him with him alone and would consider leaving let alone a virtual stranger!!!!

i don't think there's any question that she is wholly inadequate, growlers.

and it's not 100% clear that the murderer beat the mother, Countto10, but he did threaten to kill her and her former boyfriend by the looks of things. i'd consider that abuse, personally, but we don't know the extent of it.

clearly there are those who would seek both to comdemn and to understand, and those who would seek only to condemn. it's a tragic case from start to finish, of that there can be no doubt.

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My base instincts would be to mash soft parts of the parents' bodies with a very heavy object.

But that would just be sinking to their level, wouldn't it? Apparently parents who abuse their children usually love their children just as much as the rest of us - they just can't cope in the same way.

The mother will pay for this for the rest of her life. Imagine what the man's mother must be feeling... if YOUR son had done that?

When my ds1 was in hospital a 4 month old baby had been admitted because her father had burned her stomach with a cigarette. His mum - the baby's Grandma - stayed there all night. She was talking to me - crying some of the time about what her son had done. She thought I would judge her for her son's actions.

What on earth must the family be feeling in this case?

what can i say that hasnt been said
poor little chap
i would have had him
why couldnt they have given him to me if they didnt want him
i would have had him..an loved him

My heart breaks when I hear about anything like this. I can't even begin to comprehend such actions...look at his wee perfect face. Oh god I can't think about it

i would have had him

I would of had him to cowmad - i would of given him a happy loving home.

how would you have 'got' him - are you foster carers?

No I am not a foster carer although I have been thinking for years of becoming one. Truthfully, I don't think I would cope. It would be too upsetting to have social services bringing abused children to my home for months only to hand them back to the parent/parents that abused them. Although I am sure in this case they wouldn't of even considered it. Just a shame SS didn't act earlier. Sending a letter that went to the wrong adress was not acceptable. Surely they should of gone there personally.

To sum this case up. We all need to be more vigilant and report any cases of abuse even if we are not sure, it could save a childs life.
I appreciate though that babies of Aarons age do fall over and bang themselves, I know mine does, so it is difficult to know for sure. If I suspected someone was abusing a child I wouldn't hesitate to contact SS, even if I was wrong, it's best to be safe than sorry.
Tragic case.

i dont think all children who go into foster care are abused children-it can be for other reasons like a single mum has to go into hospital for an op and has nobody else to look after her kids and things like that.i think abused children are only placed with experienced foster carers.

True diva. I used to work with young offenders and some of them were in foster care or in a childrens home but most of the time they would end up back with their parent/s. One lad was 13 and his parents had split up and couldn't cope with him and he was back and forth from parent to parent and they BOTH used to beat him up, hence why he ended up in care. He would always end up back with either one of the parents though. can't understand it!