Charlotte Wyatt to go into foster care

[ginmummy]

...because, according to the news, her seperated parents can't give her the care that she needs. It so sad, I want to cry. Poor, poor Charlotte, poor, poor parents.

i think its terrible to speak about someone this way. This is a child that shouldnt be judged,anyone of us or our children could end up tomorrow in a similar way.none of us have any right to judge another in such a terrible way. The isue is he child is here and now ready to leave hospital and needs to have her needs met. How this is done does not matter just has long has she has a loving caring family to do this whether they are blood related or not.This should be kept private away from the media prying eyes has we all know how he media can stretch and bend the truth and the only one that will suffer due to the media will be the child how unfair is that.Im sure none of us would like our personal life spread across the media instead we should help protect these children from the media.

And I guess you're not interested in thinking of a single reason why she might have behaved "atrociously" Kitty, apart from that she is a feckless undeserving parent? And that the most appropriate constructive approach to such parents is condemnation, anger and the threat of withholding funds?

Not interested anymore caligula, was a bit, earlier on, but not now no, I've got other things that need tending to.

Gosh, I mustn't have been reading the thread very attentively, I must have missed your moment of empathy.

OK, so that's a snipe.

Well, I guess its as Dino says - n'er the twain.

For me tho, the arguments smack of the old Victorian notions of deserving and undeserving poor - and we now know how heartlessly rooted that was.

I find it amazing that someone should think of this case in terms of 'how much more of my money can this woman spend'. Its not your money to spend, and Thank God too.

Yes, it is my money and I don't like how it's being spent,there's only so much of it niceglasses, you might think the pot is neverending. I know it'not.

I'm afraid if it wasn't spend on this Mrs Wyatt, it would be spend on another. Actually I'm not 'afraid' I'm glad. I don't see it as 'my money'. But we are wandering into some fairly basic political standpoints on which we obviously do not have the same views so no point.

And therein lies the rub - you see it as "your" money - lots of other people would say that in our demcratic and civilised society we all contribute to a pot that goes to help others. The fact you see it as "my money" says a lot.

I wonder if you'd be quite as angry about how your money was being spent if Mr and Mrs Wyatt were a nice middle class couple who avoided fruit shoots and were exemplary members of the community? Would their baby's life be worth the money then?

i was thinking again about this last night. And wondering why the medical teams did not discuss with the family about the possibility of what live would be like at home assuming charlotte survived. But then it sounds as though there was never that 'doctor patients next of kin' relationship which are vital in arranging discharges home. Because both parties became embriolled in a nasty, and at the end of the day, seemingly pointless court case.

It breaks my heart for poor little Charlotte to only have a nurse in a quiet moment to bring her some joy with 'round and round the garden'. Poor poor child. Having a child in hospital is never easy. Having other children and having a chil in hospital is even harder. But surely you would still keep going, if not often regularly, because this child is as much yours as the others and is still deserving of your love and affection as a parent. I'm sorry i am lacking in empathy for the parents, but i have so so much empathy for this little girl.

Well I would rather pay in "my money" (your phrase btw) in the hope of never needing to benefit from it than be in the position of this unfortunate family.

I think every one on this site would walk the 5 miles to see their child, any way they could....

But once PND sets in you can not count that person as thinking properly..... who knows, also it was not that long ago that children went in to homes/hospitals and stayed there and their parents would only see them yearly if that......

Caligula, they can have as many fruit shots as they like, I draw the line a sunny D though .As long as they act with responsibilty I couldn't give a toss what sector of society they are from.

i can see what kitty is saying regarding her taxes but this may happen to kitty and not just kitty one day,where maybe she was in an accident no fault of her own where she has no able bodied movement but her mind still is all there or maybe senile dementia,ms,parkinson etc, this stopping her able to work and pay taxes where the rest of the populations taxes have to pay towards her or god forbid it happen to any of her children in any circumstance where she then becomes a full time carer and unable to work.
i persoannly feel this is no longer a subject to discuss where charlotte is concerned and before making judgements people should look at the whole picture and how their lives could just has equally change in tragic circumstances.like i say not one of us has the right to judge another,life is hard enough.

Then you are better off than me. I'm not sure how much I would describe their set up as that of a family.

what should your money be spent on then?

These extraordinarily unlikely events could indeed befall me and My family. That being the case would it be alright with you if I carried on having children that I could in no way look after and then they could go into care and you could pay for them? I would think it entirely justified of you to be P**sed off with that.

errrr i wantr more kids.

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Misdee, I would genuinely like to answer that question, however, at the moment because I am tired now, I can't do it justice. I would find it alot easier to say how I don't want it spent though.
Right kiddie rounds now.

Kitty, I would regard that as your freedom of choice, a human right.

Foster Care doesn't necessarily imply can never looka fter, sometimes it's not for the moment only. A sort of full time respite for the family, often when other arrangements are made. I hope I never need it , but should I be able to afford it I would send Sam to boarding school at senior age, for his sake and ours.... is that really any different? (that would onvolve me paying off my rather big student debt first so unlikely LOL).

Older kids grow up, move into suported housing or whatever.... does that mean a family should be bereft of any other children / grandchildren? I think and hope not.

im def not rich but having seen my own neice having had a heart/lung transplant and being a mother of five ,one being asd you need compansion in this live and that little girl charlotte needs that. has the saying goes" for the grace of god".
anyone one of us could be in a similar postion tomorrow with our nearest and dearest im sure then noone would want money to be an issue to whether you get treated or not.
i feel this subject should be kept private between those involved with charlotte and not made public for people to judge and opionise on.

Misdee, how is that relevant? Would you like to have them and shortly after place them in care? That's what this is about for me. The ability to provide for the children you have and not keep on having more if you can't properly look after the onews you have. This isn't like getting a hamster of two from the pet shop. This is about the Wyatts bringing human beings into the world who are't being cared for properly.

Socci, it is your place to judge because you are part of things, of course it is.

I think keeping sick children alive is an excellent use of public money. No question. I still find it bizarre that anyone could think otherwise. .