Oxford University denies that UKIP candidate Natasha Bolter ever attended Oxford

[claig]

"Natasha Bolter: Oxford University deny sex scandal Ukip candidate ever attended"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11285916/Natasha-Bolter-Oxford-University-deny-sex-scandal-Ukip-candidate-ever-attended.html

Roger Bird, who is a PPE, introduced Natasha Bolter as having defected from Labour and being a PPE too.

I saw her interviewed on BBC Newsnight last night, and I did begin to wonder about Oxford and PPEs. I'm not a big fan of PPEs at the best of times, but Gordon Bennett, I thought to myself.

What's going on?

claig, I've looked through your posts today, and it seems the best example of this enforced political correctness you can come up with, is being called a fruitcake for your 'endangered' (the Mail has ~2 million readers) opinions.

Is this really the level of repression you're struggling against? Because, frankly, you're not shy of using 'othering' language yourself.

Also, I haven't followed this streetlight thing that seems to be concerning you, but it sounds like a huge open goal for local campaigners.

'Party X turned off the streetlights! Vote for party Y to get them turned back on!'

Either people are concerned, and vote for party Y, or (I suspect more likely) they don't really give a toss either way and vote how they always did.

No need for revolution.

The silenced are the people. The disenfranchised, ignored, partonised and insulted are the people.

But the people have had enough. They want to take power back from these people who tell us not to smoke in parks and who turn off our streetlights without asking us, and the people have renewed hope that things can change and kick these metropolitan elite spinners out. Can we tear up their lawns? Yes we can.

"Many said they were attracted by the idea of empowering local democracy, and taking back power from Westminster and “the elites”."

www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/meet-ukip-peoples-army-who-4665996

I've tried to expalin the revolution, I've tried to explain why it is happening and why the Establishment can't stop it, but I haven't explained it well enough for you to understand.

Listen to someone who explains it better than I can, UKIP parliamentary candidate for Croydon North, Winston McKenzie

schools, they say, can’t hold nativity plays or harvest festivals any more; you can’t fly a flag of St George any more; you can’t call Christmas Christmas any more; you won’t be promoted in the police force unless you’re from a minority; you can’t wear an England shirt on the bus; you won’t get social housing unless you’re an immigrant; you can’t speak up about these things because you’ll be called a racist; you can’t even smack your children.

The thing is, there may be a perception that these things happen, but that doesn't not mean that they actually do. There are nativity plays up and down the country, even broader festive shows will have some nod to Xmas with a Mary and Joseph,St. George's flags are commonplace, Christmas is always Christmas (and most of my non-Christian friends happily join in the festivities) police forces are as white and racist as ever they were and to judge by the reports of tribunal cases brought by BME officers, they are not being preferred over white colleagues. People wear England shirts absolutely everywhere (including black and Asian people), immigrants are often accused of jumping the housing queue but where's the evidence, far from being silenced, people won't shut up about it. Ah but it's true, you can't really smack your children in law, though in reality lots do.

This isn't evidence of injustice, in my view, it is evidence of prejudice and pretext. This is the stuff people say to excuse feeling the way they do about certain ethnic and nationality groups.

MonstrousRatbag, that is the perception of many people. They are called "racist" and "prejudiced" for having those perceptions by the elite. But even the elite are now terrified of UKIP. Labour has released a document today on how to counter UKIP. The Daily Politics said today that "Why vote UKIP" is the top selling book amongst the "Why vote Labour", "Why vote Conservative" "Why vote LibDem". "Why vote Labour" is second.

There is a revolution going on because people want local democracy, local referenda, an end to being insulted for their views and opinions, an end to be patronised by Oxbridge politicians, they want to take the power back.

They are fed up of arrogant busybodies and nobodies in councils and elsewhere telling them that their streetlights are being turned off or they can no longer buy 2 for 1s at Tesco without even being asked.

The days of an arrogant elite saying "let them eat cake" are over. There is a revolution going on and it is called UKIP.

'Party X turned off the streetlights! Vote for party Y to get them turned back on!'

Either people are concerned, and vote for party Y, or (I suspect more likely) they don't really give a toss either way and vote how they always did."

That is where you are wrong. You may be fine with the status quo but millions and millions aren't. We have had enough.

Everybody came to UKIP for a different reason. The climate changed, people passed their tipping point, it may have been immigration, the EU, streetlights, minimum alcohol pricing, political correctness, foreign aid etc etc but whatever it was it wasn't the only issue, it was the last in a long, long line of issues, it was only the final straw that broke the camel's back. Whatever it was, it was the feeling that "they are not on our side"

"And he [John Humphrys] said BBC employees are unable to understand the concerns of ordinary people because they typically have ‘sheltered’ middle-class lives and are overwhelmingly ‘liberal Oxbridge males’.

Winston McKenzie was right in that video clip, the status quo is over, there is no turning back.

The people in the People's Army joined for different reasons but they all have one common goal, to kick these metropolitan elite spinners out. It doesn't matter how fast they change their policies and tell us they "care" about us and are "now listening" to us. We don't believe them anymore and as "OOKIP" woman said "they can all go and stuff themselves". We're People's Army now.

Their wishes and concerns are ignored by a liberal consensus

You do realise what type of political system we have in this country don't you? Its a 'democracy'. Democracy is all about consensus. Where compromise is reached with as many different people and groups as possible having their point of view respected.

The opposing force to consensus is imposing opinions on people without their input and valuing one particular view above all others. You know like what happens in a dictatorship.

I won't follow that one to its logical conclusion, but that's probably the most telling sentence you've said in your entirety of your rantings.

"MonstrousRatbag, that is the perception of many people."

It might well be. But IT ISN'T TRUE! So people are rising up to defeat something that doesn't exist. "I demand that my child's school have a nativity play!!" 'But we're doing one already......"

Perhaps the People will change their mind about wanting the streetlights on all night when they realise the council tax will go up to pay for the electricity.

Winston McKenzie - the man who has been a member of every political party, including the one he founded... Croydon Mercury on Winston Mackenzie

No, UKIP is about local referenda and direct democracy and proportional representation - real democracy, where instead of "OOKIP" woman telling A BBC reporter than they can "all go and stuff themselves", she can say it at the ballot box in a local referendum when they want to erect a windfarm outside her house or turn her streetlights off or shut her post office or stop her buying 2 for 1s of alcohol at Tescos.

We are run by a tiny clique - mainly from Oxbridge and the top echelons strangely coming from one single course - PPE.

Nick Cohen who has a PPE, a PPE (degree), says in his article

"How an Oxford degree – PPE – created a robotic governing class

Most of our prominent politicians studied the same subject at Oxford. Is it any wonder we’re so badly governed?"
...
Last week Vernon Bogdanor described his astonishment that the man he called ‘my ablest pupil’ (David Cameron, PPE, Brasenose College) was drawing up a new constitution on scrap paper."

www.spectator.co.uk/features/9322492/the-politics-of-ppe/

If Cameron was his "ablest pupil", what on earth does that say about the rest of the class? It doesn't bear thinking about.

People want change, they want something better, they want to be listened to.

"Yet it [the Tory] has been snubbed by an arrogant, out-of-touch leadership that believed the policies popular with the so-called ‘Notting Hill Set’ would resonate with the rest of the country.

They were wrong, and Thursday’s disastrous results prove it.

The Tories’ hapless chairman, Grant Shapps, tries to be humble in saying: ‘We get the message. We heard you.’

But they don’t, and they haven’t.

Tory ministers think the message is about tougher immigration controls and faster economic growth.

But that is only part of it.

The truth is that the Farage Factor consists of a lot more.

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2319152/SIMON-HEFFER-Theres-way-Dave-stub-Farage.html

It's not about dicatorship, it's about real democracy and power for the people.

"Many said they were attracted by the idea of empowering local democracy, and taking back power from Westminster and “the elites”."

www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/meet-ukip-peoples-army-who-4665996

"Perhaps the People will change their mind about wanting the streetlights on all night when they realise the council tax will go up to pay for the electricity."

mythbustingov, they won't because they think the council is wasting their tax money elsewhere, on their salaries, perks and pensions, offices as well as elsewhere. They expect a minimum level of service for their taxes just as was provided for the past 50 years.

Interesting. You think Council employees don't deserve a pension?

"Interesting. You think Council employees don't deserve a pension?"

They deserve a pension, but some of the fat cats at the top could do with smaller salaries and smaller pensions in my opinion.

"Quarter of council tax goes on funding town hall pensions: £5.7bn handed over in past year goes on paying retirement incomes
Of the £22.4billion handed over by families in council tax in England in 2012-13, some £5.7billion went towards paying for council workers’ pensions
In Scotland the figures are even worse where councils paid £1billion in employer contributions but collected just £1.9billion in council tax
New figures show that high costs and lax governance are corroding the pension scheme predict that within three years it will run out of cash"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512940/Quarter-council-tax-goes-funding-town-hall-pensions--5-7bn-handed-past-year-goes-paying-retirement-incomes.html

So far UKIP have announced candidates for the following constituencies:
•Chris Adams, Aylesbury
•Stuart Agnew MEP, Broadland
•Tim Aker MEP, Thurrock
•Janice Atkinson MEP, Folkestone & Hythe
•Victoria Ayling, Great Grimsby
•Michael Baker, Norfolk North
•Geoffrey Bastin, Bexhill & Battle
•Richard Coke, Norfolk North West
•Jane Collins MEP, Rotherham
•Allen Cowles, Rother Valley
•Patricia Culligan, Eastleigh
•Bill Etheridge MEP, Dudley North
•Nigel Farage MEP, Thanet South
•Ray Finch MEP, Lewes
•Mike FitzGerald, Portsmouth North
•Mike Glennon, Worthing East & Shoreham
•Alan Grey, Great Yarmouth
•Stephen Harness, Cleethorpes
•Barry Hodgson, Wolverhampton South East
•Robin Hunter-Clarke, Boston & Skegness
•Jamie Huntman, Castle Point
•Graham Jones, Bognor Regis & Littlehampton
•Colin Mair, Louth & Horncastle
•Penny Mills, Plymouth Moor View
•Andrew Moncrieff, Chichester
•Brian Otridge, South West
•Richard Palmer, Sittingbourne & Sheppey
•John Perry, Havant
•Peter Reeve, Cambridgeshire North West
•Phil Rowe, Dudley South
•Robert Smith, Camborne & Redruth
•Steve Stanbury, Forest of Dean
•Simon Tobin, Waveney
•Caven Vines, Wentworth & Dearne
•Ann Marie Waters, Basildon & Billericay
•Piers Wauchope, Thanet North
•Grahame Wiggin, Cannock Chase
•Chris Wood, Gosport

They are yet to announce candidates for:
•Amber Valley
•Basildon South & Thurrock East
•Brigg & Goole
•Bury North
•Cambridgeshire North East
•Harwich & Essex North
•Penistone & Stocksbridge
•Portsmouth South
•Rayleigh & Wickford
•South Holland & The Deepings
•Yorkshire East

I do believe that makes ONE in the NW of England. That really makes it the 'People's Army'... I put it down to the BBC moving to Manchester and therefore converting everyone to the Establishment.

I can kind of understand the lack of welsh constituencies, what with them being foreigners and all.

I think you will find there will be more. I can't see the Deputy Leader. Paul Nuttall on that list. He is from Liverpool. Lawns are being torn up as we speak in Wales. There is panic in Labour constituency offices.

There may well be, but that's their top 50 target list...

Paul Nuttall might be from Liverpool.
But then, so was Paul McCartney.
It means nothing if he isn't standing there.

The projections suggest that there isn't much chance of winning shit in the NW.

I was actually pleasantly surprised.

""MonstrousRatbag, that is the perception of many people."

It might well be. But IT ISN'T TRUE! So people are rising up to defeat something that doesn't exist. "I demand that my child's school have a nativity play!!" 'But we're doing one already......"

Claig- you are very good at not addressing any point you don't want to. Please address this point.

Please can you also tell me how political correctness has silenced anyone.

"Please can you also tell me how political correctness has silenced anyone."

Some people are afraid to say that man-made global warming is a crock in case they are called a "flat-earther" or a "fruitcake". Others of course aren't.

Here is what the BBC's great John Humphrys wrote in yesterday's Mail on Sunday about the great and good BBC, the Establishment BBC, the one full of all the Oxbridge graduates wjicjh according ho him was "frightened".

"He said the BBC was ‘frightened of appearing racist’, adding: ‘We were too institutionally nervous of saying, isn’t immigration getting a little bit out of hand? And can we be critical of multiculturalism?

‘We didn’t interrogate immigration rigorously enough. We failed to look at what our job was.’

^"Interesting. You think Council employees don't deserve a pension?"

They deserve a pension, but some of the fat cats at the top could do with smaller salaries and smaller pensions in my opinion.

"Quarter of council tax goes on funding town hall pensions: £5.7bn handed over in past year goes on paying retirement incomes
Of the £22.4billion handed over by families in council tax in England in 2012-13, some £5.7billion went towards paying for council workers’ pensions"^

So, you think council tax should be increased so a smaller proportion goes on pensions?

The alternative is to default on contracted pension rights.

And perhaps pay less than market rates so that they cannot attract skilled workers, especially in top jobs? That seems to have worked well so far, doesn't it?

"So, you think council tax should be increased so a smaller proportion goes on pensions?"

No, I think councils should make savings.

"Councils waste £200MILLION of taxpayers' money on different types of bins because they can't agree on standard shapes and sizes"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2692604/Councils-waste-200MILLION-taxpayers-money-different-types-bins-t-agree-standard-shapes-sizes.html

I think some of them are paid too much. I am sure there are people who would do the same job for less.

"500 council bosses earn more than the PM: Fat cats given huge salaries including officials in charge of school budgets, social housing and bin collections
Half of the fat cats earning over £150,000 did so through their basic salary
Thirty-four council employees were paid more than £250,000
Highest UK package went to David Crawford, Glasgow’s director of social care, whose redundancy package and earnings was £486,303"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2716149/500-council-bosses-earn-PM-Fat-cats-given-huge-salaries-including-officials-charge-school-budgets-social-housing-bin-collections.html

You do realise that there is no truth in what the Daily Mail prints, don't you? And that the PM 'earns' way more than his 'salary'?

I'm fascinated by your sudden enthusiasm for central Government control over recycling and purchasing policy - isn't that the complete opposite of the local democracy model you espoused up-thread?

'You do realise that there is no truth in what the Daily Mail prints, don't you?'

I didn't know that.

'the PM 'earns' way more than his 'salary'?'

I didn't know that.

"I'm fascinated by your sudden enthusiasm for central Government control over recycling and purchasing policy - isn't that the complete opposite of the local democracy model you espoused up-thread?"

Ansolutely not. I am against this devolution that Labour want to bring in for cities and regions because it will just create another tier of bureaucrats on huge salaries and perks paid for by the people who will turn more streetlights off etc without asking the people.

What I mean by local democracy is letting local people vote in local referenda for whether they want their streetlights turned off or not, empowering ordinary people and taking power out of the bureaucrats' hands.

"Some people are afraid to say that man-made global warming is a crock in case they are called a "flat-earther" or a "fruitcake". Others of course aren't."

That's not political correctness- that's the fact that 97% of the scientific community "believe" in man made global warming. But as I said, that 3% and their supporters never seem to shut up about it. No sign of them being silenced! And you've quoted John Humphreys several times. Anything else?