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The white van has been transformed to a Harrods van and the England flag is now a Hammer and Sickle so Mrs Hyacinth Bouquet, Labour MP feels more at home

Claig...this isn't an episode of "yes minister"!
This is peoples lives....and ukip are a party of elitist, misogynistic, racist, xenophobic morons.

"Claig you sound utterly barking."

Mahatma Ghandi once said

"First they ignore you, then they call you barking, then they fight you, then you win"

They called Farage barking, but now it is they who are howling and licking their wounds.

They said the People'a Army was full of "fruitcakes" and "looneys" when it was self-evidently not true.

I am having a laugh and the People's Army are laughing now and we will topple the elite and give power back to the people (as Reckless said in his excellent speech on the country's great radical tradition) as our laughter echos all over Essex and Kent and then all over the country.

This is just like Hans Christian Andersen's tale "The Emperor Has No Clothes"

Jesus....

Badvocinapeartree, you have got their policies wrong. The media are doing their utmost to confuse the people.

They have a document out called "Policies for the People", have you read it?

UKIP supports the Unite union is excluding the NHS from TTIP. UKIP criticises Labours £300 billion privatisation of the NHS.

'Claig...this isn't an episode of "yes minister"!'

Absolutely. It is far more fun than that and people all over Essex and Kent are laughing as they read the headlines over breakfast ready for another hardworking day. They don't care if teh metropolitan elite sneer at them because of white vans or flags, because they know that there is a People's Party that is going to hold the balance of power and change everything.

"Mark Reckless wins Rochester by-election for Ukip despite David Cameron's threat to kick his 'fat a*' out of the Commons"

www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

For people who are calling Emily Thornberry a snob and elitist and all the rest, I'd just like to point out that she was brought up on a council estate and attended a secondary modern. She's almost certainly a damn sight more working-class than anyone else on this thread.

All she did was tweet a picture with the caption "Image from Rochester". She didn't write anything snide or sneery. But that's enough, apparently, to get the racists and the morons wetting themselves in excitement. So much for freedom of speech. So much for any hope of intelligent debate.

'So much for freedom of speech'

I agree, I said I like Emily Thornberry and she got it wrong, but I hope she comes back.

What I think it shows is the cowardice of Labour who should have stood up for her and said it was a joke gone wrong. But they are so frightened of the people because they know that they are a metropilitan elite and that the people know it.

hackmum her background is complicated but not traditionally working class. It's not the issue though; her lack of judgement is.

People make gaffes, but they are still good people. Emily Thornberry is a good person and a clever person and it is tragic that her career should be stalled by one small misjudgement.

UKIP people make misjudgements lots of times, but usually Farage stands up for them and supports them. That is what Miliband should have done.

'Racists and morons' get your insults right. Surely the people objecting to photos taking the p out of working class displays of patriotism should be 'the PC brigade' if you need to use cliches?

Exactly right Nerf, and it shows the cowardice of politically correct Labour who are wetting themselves but not with laughter because they are so scared that the people have rumbled whose side they are really on.

It's a setback her career will get over.

Labour however look doomed beyond London.

An honest question.

What exactly did Thornberry do wrong?

I see the photo. I see the words Image from Rochester.

I don't understand.

'Labour however look doomed beyond London.'

Yep, and the Conservatives too.

Politics is changing forever. Peter Kellner of yougov was on TV last night and he said that UKIP won't achieve stunning success this time, but by 2020 they could be winning lots of former Labour seats.

There are 6 months to go, lots more gaffes might occur. Flooding may occur, a rise in tension with Russia may occur. We don't know what will happen, and UKIP may be more successful than the pundits who once called them "fruitcakes" think.

This is democracy. Power is coming back to the people but it may still take some time.

Well in my opinion this is what was wrong:

English flags are a bit loaded - possible hints at them being used primarily as markets for racists/bnp members etc so probably a good idea not to take photos of them. Particularly when the owner isn't there smiling nicely at your camera and engaging with you. White vans are also slightly loaded.
An image from rochester of a white van and English flags all over a house - why that one. What are you trying to say?

Markers not markets

She, a politician, tweets it as an image of "Rochester" where an anti-EU party are set to win. She is possibly to be interpreting the flags as the political manifestation of a typical "white van man", a loaded phrase itself.

Did the guy even vote?

Possibly the home of a football fan would have been another train of thought from a person with a different hinterland. (Midweek match against Scotland.)

possibly interpreting - sorry.

Thanks Nerf,
So it was about what people thought she was thinking when she posted it?

I think I feel sorry for her. Although she was quick to quit, so maybe that was what she was thinking.

All very strange.

No he didn't vote, he wasn't aware a by-election was even on. He has never voted Labour and voted Conservative in the last election.

He put the flags up for the World Cup and never took them down.

"Mr Ware, 36, said Ms Thornberry ‘should have asked me first’ before taking the picture of his three-bedroom home, which he bought with wife Maria for £119,000 in 2002.

He said he had simply put up the three St George flags to celebrate the World Cup, and that it was ‘not political’.

Referring to Miss Thornberry, he said: ‘She’s a snob. What’s she got, a three-storey townhouse in Islington? These flags can be found anywhere you look.’

He works in the motor trade and does property maintenance, was at work when the MP came round.

He was not aware there was a byelection, but voted Conservative at the last general election and has never voted Labour.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2842783/Labour-MP-accused-outrageous-snobbery-tweeting-photo-remarkable-house-flying-St-George-s-flags.html

Twitter is awash with middle class journos all being so liberal re flags when they know they will never see one in their 'nice' streets! It's lie a few years ago someone moved in opposite me in a nice road and he had flags and worse it seemed come Christmas hisnhouse was literally covered in lights and all the yummy mummies were up in arms about how it 'looked' even though their kids loved it.

Absolutely, noddyholder. People are different, think differently and like different things.

She made a bad mistake, misjudged certainly. But a sacking offence?
Ed's 'people' quick to condemn her saying he had "never been so angry"

I think there are many other things wrong with this country that Ed should direct his ire at. Perhaps he was in a bad mood after having his ass handed to him, again, this time by that amazing political commentator Mylene Klass

Labour need to rid themselves of this millstone. Better late than never.

And I think her hand was forced btw, that's why I said sacked.

Agree, Behoove.

On Sky a reporter is saying that this thing "that Miliband had never been so angry" shows how sensitive Labour are that they are seen as a metropolitan elite who ignore their core vote.

I don't believe "he had never been so angry" and it just shows cowardice. She made a mistake, but he should have supported her and said it was a mistake.

Labour core voters would have forgiven her, they are not too bothered, just like UKIP voters forgive UKIP gaffes.

But it shows the cowardice and fear of the Labour metropolitan elite and if they are that scared, it looks like they won't have the courage to win the election, because one thing is for sure, Farage is not scared of anything.