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Woman beheaded in North London. :(

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OwnerOfAnInsanePuppy · 04/09/2014 16:38

From the telegraph..

By Agencies4:28PM BST 04 Sep 2014
A woman has been beheaded in a back garden.
The victim was found at an address in Nightingale Road, Edmonton, north London, just after 1pm today.
Scotland Yard gave few details but said that a man has been arrested.
The force said: "Police were called to an address in Nightingale Road at 13.07pm today to reports of a stabbing incident.
"On arrival officers discovered a female collapsed in a garden area.
"A man has been detained and remains in custody.
"At this very early stage we are not in a position to give further details."
There is no suggestion that the killing had any terrorist motive.
Scotland Yard said a firearms officer had suffered a broken wrist in the course of arresting the 25-year-old man who is being held on suspicion of murder.
Detective Chief Inspector John Sandlin, leading this investigation, said: "This was a highly visible attack in broad daylight on a residential street. I can understand why this may cause people concern, however we are confident that we are not looking for anyone else at this stage.
"Whilst it is too early to speculate on what the motive behind this attack was I am confident, based on the information currently available to me, that it is not terrorist related.
"Local officers and specialist detectives are at the scene and will remain there for many hours to come.
"Specially trained family liaison officers will be deployed to support the family; we request that their privacy is respected at this very difficult time."

Scary.

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Hakluyt · 04/09/2014 20:54

What is it? 2 women a week killed by men in the UK? We only ever hear about the high profile or dramatic ones..............

MrsDeVere · 04/09/2014 20:56

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scallopsrgreat · 04/09/2014 21:05

This is the 3rd beheading of a woman by a man in London in the last 6 months. The other two were done by partners, perhaps not unsurprisingly.

Karen Ingala Smith has written about it here.
And here is a different take on whether it is actually terrorism.

AuntieStella · 04/09/2014 21:10

THis appears to have been a random attack.

The man under arrest (reportedly not fit to be questioned at present) also smashed up a car and there may have been two others injured, plus attacks in animals and attempts to enter other houses (according to eye witnesses interviewed on camera).

chockbic · 04/09/2014 21:19

Paranoid schizophrenic?

MrsDeVere · 04/09/2014 21:27

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Nancy66 · 04/09/2014 21:32

Lee Rigby was hacked to death with a machete and that was terrorism. I don't, therefore, think it's ridiculous for it to enter people's minds in this case.

MrsRaegan · 04/09/2014 21:34

Maybe it's scary that a woman was beheaded in her own garden?!

What kind of world do we live in, that a beheading isn't thought of as frightening?

MrsDeVere · 04/09/2014 21:39

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Bambambini · 04/09/2014 21:40

I haven't read about this yet - only caught words on this thread at the beginning describing what seems a random beheading in London.

With the UK being on critical terrorist alert (or whatever you call it) and two terrorist be headings recently - I know, it's crazy for it to cross your mind that this might be another terrorist attack - just crazy! And as for the wimps that find this shocking or frightening - wimps!

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Nancy66 · 04/09/2014 21:42

Lee Rigby was a lot more recent than Blakelock plus the UK is on heightened state of alert.

I think it's pretty logical that people might wonder whether it's a terrorist attack. It isn't. But I wouldn't ridicule anyone for thinking it might be.

BornFreeButinChains · 04/09/2014 21:53

Mrs de vere many people are really busy doing other things and see a headline and very quickly in the space of milliseconds jump to the most obvious conclusion right now.

I am not sure why anyone is making a big deal out of people getting a flash across their brain thinking, terrorism?

I can't understand why people have bothered to go on posting about how ridiculous it is for people to think this might have been a terrorist attack.

Why does it bother YOU so much.

BornFreeButinChains · 04/09/2014 21:55

What is it? 2 women a week killed by men in the UK? We only ever hear about the high profile or dramatic ones..............

I imagine far far more people die in all sorts of mysterious circumstances as well as plain murder every day and it won't even make their local news.

News does tend to by its nature deal in the dramatic.

MrsDeVere · 04/09/2014 21:59

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Bowlersarm · 04/09/2014 22:07

Thanks for sneering MrsDV.

Nancy66 · 04/09/2014 22:11

Beheading seems to be one of the murder methods of choice for terrorists right now.

Radio/TV reports: 'A woman has been beheaded in a north London street in broad daylight'

it's a pretty logical step for me to think this might be terrorist driven.

I don't think people are 'jumping to conclusions' I think they'd be pondering a possibility.

hmc · 04/09/2014 22:16

There is something about beheading that provokes - in me at least - a visceral fear.

HeySoulSister · 04/09/2014 22:20

Nobody has concluded anything here, it's just a possibility which runs through our minds. MH issues,dv and terrorism. That's all. Possibilities.

BornFreeButinChains · 04/09/2014 22:27

Because jumping to an immediate conclusion that a crime has religious/race/minority grounds perpetuates prejudice.
It allows a moral panic to flourish and long after the truth comes out the germ of the idea that some woman was beheaded by a terrorist grows into an urban myth that sticks around for ever
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you one of those.

I would wonder, how many people like myself, saw that headline and in split seconds between running after small children and all the other things I have had to do today, thought, Oh God, Terrorist.

Then, a few moments later when I checked the actual story, thought, No, Not Terrorist, random attack, poor soul.

Its certainly clear now what happened, and I am sure 99.9% of others are also clear that it was not terrorism, this time.

Mrs devere, if your so worried about this sort of headline, and people jumping to conclusions about terrorism; Don't Moan to us, that it isn't fair.

Complain to ISIS. It is ISIS who are creating the current climate of fear and its ISIS who are beheading people and slaughtering them and inciting British Muslims to do the same from their own homes. Also complain to Lee Rigby's killers who killed him, in a run down boring part of London, in broad day light. Complain to ISIS that because of their actions, when someone is Be headed here and the headlines are as above, the public will in milliseconds jump to the wrong conclusion.

And that upsets people. ( not the actual act of violence, just the associations it may provoke for all of two seconds)

CKDexterHaven · 04/09/2014 22:34

It is terrorism. Women are constantly told to modify their behaviour to avoid male violence; don't provoke him, don't speak up, don't leave him, don't walk there, don't wear that, don't talk back, don't be too friendly, don't be too unfriendly, don't have a drink, don't leave your drink unattended, don't do that job, don't get a cab alone, don't give him your number, don't refuse to give him your number ... What is this if not living with terrorism? Three beheadings of women in six months and it hasn't even made the evening news.

Unrealhousewife · 04/09/2014 22:41

Interesting point Dexter, i would also say that violence against women is a kind of terrorism.

AuntieStella · 04/09/2014 22:41

That may or may not be terrorism, but it's unconnected with the death of Palmira Silva. The eyewitness accounts that have been broadcast are consistently describing series of attacks on people (who did not know their attacker).